the curious case of vanes mitrosyan...

[Mammoth]

Heard Tom from K2 say today that Vanes was actually training to fight Sulecki; that fell through so Sulecki fought Jacobs. I don't know how long ago the plug was pulled on that camp but from what Tom said, it sounds like Vanes has actually been in the gym for some time.

I always thought Vanes was a pretty solid fighter. Annoying, but a solid fighter.

It fell through because Sulecki chose to fight Jacobs instead

[jmrf4435]

It fell through because Sulecki chose to fight Jacobs instead

And what a great choice it was. He made way more money in Brooklyn and made a name for himself

[New England]

Vanes is solid, and even the weight ain't such an issue - most guys hitting 30 start to struggle to make the cut and it's likely he would have been moving up anyway sooner or later. Thing you just can't get around is the lay off though. 2 freakin years out of the ring is just too much.

there's also the style, man. he's a very basic fighter and golovkin is a huge puncher. what's he going to do to keep golovkin away or win rounds? speed and power give golovkin problems. the guy who beat him in his prime probably would have taken the fight to him, not backpedaled. vanes doesn't have that kind of pop, even at 154.

[TonyGe]

Heard Tom from K2 say today that Vanes was actually training to fight Sulecki; that fell through so Sulecki fought Jacobs. I don't know how long ago the plug was pulled on that camp but from what Tom said, it sounds like Vanes has actually been in the gym for some time.

I always thought Vanes was a pretty solid fighter. Annoying, but a solid fighter.

That's interesting. That would be a fight that could sell if Vanes shows something positive against Golovkin.

[Mammoth]

And what a great choice it was. He made way more money in Brooklyn and made a name for himself

Yeah I thought so too.

[_Rexy_]

Well like I said thats ALWAYS the thing. I've seen plenty of fun ass 4 round nothing fights. And thats all well & good. But I wanted to see a top 5 fight that decides something in a competitive division right now & instead I get GGG vs Vanes. Its a bs fight that maybe entertaining or not, but it doesn't matter to the division.

Give me GGG vs Derevyanchenko. GGG vs Charlo. GGG vs Jacobs. GGG vs BJS. There were some other compelling fights to make on Cinco de Mayo or in June if they needed to push the fight out a lil bit.

I'm a boxing fan. I'll watch "Superman" McGre, 18-0 (17) vs "Hobo" Jenkins, 8-17-2 (3) if its the only fight on TV so of course I'll watch GGG vs Vanes, but I no longer am looking forward to this fight nor see THAT much appeal in it even if its funner than expected. If that happens it'll more likely just be about GGG getting older as the dude looked about 42yrs old in the first couple rounds of Canelo vs GGG I.

I'm just jaded, once they put up the draw for the last fight I sighed and said it was going to be a three parter. I still feel that way.


And the first fight was nowhere near good enough to warrant two more.

[ruedboy]

Vanes might fool people and do ok but almost nobody can be off for 2 years and perform anywhere near their best against top level opposition.

[Citizen Koba]

there's also the style, man. he's a very basic fighter and golovkin is a huge puncher. what's he going to do to keep golovkin away or win rounds? speed and power give golovkin problems. the guy who beat him in his prime probably would have taken the fight to him, not backpedaled. vanes doesn't have that kind of pop, even at 154.

Can't really argue that either. Even at his best Vanes' style was pretty much made for GGG.

[have_not]

Vanes might fool people and do ok but almost nobody can be off for 2 years and perform anywhere near their best against top level opposition.

Vitali Klitschko was off for 4 years and where 37 years old when he came back against WBC champion Sam Peter. He toyed with Sam and it was the first time Sam Peter was stopped. Peter was never the same again.

[icha]

He's not as bad as his record suggest. All of his loses were extremely close fight and the Lara fight was stopped due to clash of heads, and he drawed them in their first meeting which I felt vanes won. I felt he was blindly robbed against Andrade.

He reminds me of ruslan and mattyste, where they were on the wrong end of a couple REALLY close fights(or robbed) and it completely derailed their careers.

He gave charlo a good fight..The replacement could be much worse.

His layoff is the only thing that concerns me to be honest. This is not a bad fight considering it's a lst minute replacement.

he has never fought at 160, no need for another reason, he was good 4 years ago at 154, 2 years innactive and no notable wins at 154 and not a single win vs a real mw... and on top of that a 1 month notice to get ready.. lol..