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Pac 8 division champion is impossible to achieve.
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Originally posted by pasawayako View PostMaybe if the guy is very special and managed carefully in every division that he will fight then it will be possible to surpass pac 8 division champion.
I mean most guys I think of that were really high level P4P, future HOF guys were top 5, world class guys in maybe 4, 5 divisions. And quite often even 3 or less.
Just look at the numbers on multiple division champions.
3 weight division champ = 46 guys
4 weight division champ = 16 guys
5 weight division champ = 5 guys (Hearns, SRL, ODLH, Floyd + Manny)
6 weight division champ = 2 guys (ODLH + Manny)
8 weight division champ = 1 guy (Manny)
Oh & looking at some of the old timey guys I think it could get more attainable in the future with new weight divisions too. I mean looking at some of the old timey guys there are many who could've been 5+ weight division or more champs if there were the same divisions as now back then.
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Originally posted by bambam182 View PostWorthless pillypeeno
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostHow many guys have even did THAT is the thing? Thats what I mean by the sample size is tiny. Its a tiny list of guys who were top 5 in 8 or more divisions. And maybe its even a fact Manny was the only guy in the past 100 years.
I mean most guys I think of that were really high level P4P, future HOF guys were top 5, world class guys in maybe 4, 5 divisions. And quite often even 3 or less.
Just look at the numbers on multiple division champions.
3 weight division champ = 46 guys
4 weight division champ = 16 guys
5 weight division champ = 5 guys (Hearns, SRL, ODLH, Floyd + Manny)
6 weight division champ = 2 guys (ODLH + Manny)
8 weight division champ = 1 guy (Manny)
Oh & looking at some of the old timey guys I think it could get more attainable in the future with new weight divisions too. I mean looking at some of the old timey guys there are many who could've been 5+ weight division or more champs if there were the same divisions as now back then.
And also, 8 division champion is attainable, but you need to have the perfect dimensions, skill and utility of power and speed to do so, but even if a person does reach it, it would NEVER be in the way Manny did it when he basically went through the ringer with 5 Legitimate HOF's and ATG's and among all the other players that Pac went.Last edited by Thraxox; 05-03-2018, 08:22 AM.
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Originally posted by Thraxox View PostYouw Pandas I'm looking at this post of yours and I'm like "Well......**** does Floyd and Manny's achievements take a dump on all the achievements of all fighters in perhaps maybe in the next 30 years....."
[quote[And also, 8 division champion is attainable, but you need to have the perfect dimensions, skill and utility of power and speed to do so, but even if a person does reach it, it would NEVER be in the way Manny did it when he basically went through the ringer with 5 Legitimate HOF's and ATG's and among all the other players that Pac went.[/QUOTE]
Idk man. When you go through that many divisions I think you almost gotta run into some great fighters. But yea these days the path would probably look more Adrien Broner-like with risk averse moves to fight the lowest hanging title holder & similar things like that so yea you are probably right.
One thing I believe is most likely is if its done anytime soon it'll be done in much lower weights. Right now the most popular 3 division champs are guys who won the 105, 108 & 112 belts. And from there to duplicate Manny's achievement you just need to collect the 115, 118, 122, 126 & 130 belts.
25lbs = 8 division champ. Another 5lbs, 30lbs total, at 135 breaks Manny's record. Meanwhile Manny won his 8 belts covering 42lbs.
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