NSB Pick 'em #21 and #22 Saturday May 5th 2018[/B]

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I bet if we dig into it, it is not as sinister as it used to be.

You claim it's power that Rhodes and Milner HAD.

I claim that their front organizations still wield power to this very day.

This is from The Washington Post in 1993:

"In its 70-year history, the quarterly journal Foreign Affairs has had but five editors. The fifth, recently appointed, is James Hoge, former publisher of the New York Daily News and before that editor of the Chicago Sun-Times.

The quarterly is published by the Council on Foreign Relations, whose members are the nearest thing we have to a ruling establishment in the United States."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.da9a3463b32b

[Idunnoshet]

The GGG fight hasn't started . Wanted to take a Risk and go ...
Idunnoshet GGG KO 9 - 12 X3 if its not too late .

[Citizen Koba]

Wikipedia is not a reliable source according to Siablo. Anyone can edit it. So I hope he doesn't allow this from you.

But Quigley seems to be supportive of the aims of the groups he wrote about it. Thinking them to be pursuing Anglo-American supremacy.

I believe that blinded him.

Ugh. So you quote Quigley as the source of the information and then say he ain't reliable (or only reliable when you want him to be)? And OK, wiki can indeed be edited but those are purportedly quotes from Quigley himself.. if you believe them to be false the onus is now on you to prove them so... the references are at the bottom of the page to make it easier.


Anyways... I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have brought it up here. I meant to say previously, but the Pick 'em thread ain't really the place. Any chance of shifting this to the lounge (or back to the lounge if this is a spillover)

K

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Ugh. So you quote Quigley as the source of the information and then say he ain't reliable (or only reliable when you want him to be)? And OK, wiki can indeed be edited but those are purportedly quotes from Quigley himself.. if you believe them to be false the onus is now on you to prove them so... the references are at the bottom of the page to make it easier.


Anyways... I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have brought it up here. I meant to say previously, but the Pick 'em thread ain't really the place. Any chance of shifting this to the lounge (or back to the lounge if this is a spillover)

K

As far as Gary Allen's "None Dare Call It Conspiracy," he quotes Quigley in order to establish the links between Lord Milner and Chatham House and the Council on Foreign Relations.

NOT to tie Lord Milner to the funding of the Bolsheviks.

For that he quotes the White Russian General Arsene de Goulevitch :


"On April 7, 1917, General Janin made the following entry in his diary ('Au G.C.C. Russe"-At Russian G.H.Q., Le Monde Slave, Vol. 2, 1927, pp.296-297): Long interview with R., who confirmed what I had previously been told by M. After referring to the German hatred of himself and his family, he turned to the subject of the Revolution which, he claimed, was engineered by the English and, more precisely, by Sir George Buchanan and Lord [Alfred] Milner. Petrograd at the time was teeming with English... He could, he asserted, name the streets and the numbers of the houses in which British agents were quartered. They were reported, during the rising, to have distributed money to the and incited them to mutiny..."


In private interviews I have been told that over 21 million roubles were spent by Lord Milner in financing the Russian Revolution."


Anyway...I agree that this thread isn't the place for this kind of discussion. I came here to make my picks like everybody else. Put your boy Siablo on a leash, as long as he refrains from questioning these ideas every time I make a pick then I will refrain from owning him with factual references.

[siablo14]

You claim it's power that Rhodes and Milner HAD.

I claim that their front organizations still wield power to this very day.

This is from The Washington Post in 1993:

"In its 70-year history, the quarterly journal Foreign Affairs has had but five editors. The fifth, recently appointed, is James Hoge, former publisher of the New York Daily News and before that editor of the Chicago Sun-Times.

The quarterly is published by the Council on Foreign Relations, whose members are the nearest thing we have to a ruling establishment in the United States."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.da9a3463b32b

Old stuff. You can't find anything that shows current control by the former Robberbarrons. Using old connections to say it is still happening now.

As I said:

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Old stuff. You can't find anything that shows current control by the former Robberbarrons. Using old connections to say it is still happening now.

As I said:

1993 is old?

One of Donald Trump's campaign promises was to end Common Core (Carnegie Foundation pushed and funded.) Is 2016 old?

The only nut here is you. You can't handle facts.

[siablo14]

1993 is old?

One of Donald Trump's campaign promises was to end Common Core (Carnegie Foundation pushed and funded.) Is 2016 old?

The only nut here is you. You can't handle facts.

Red - that's something **********s want. It is not just Trump. You know I don't have the time for this. If I was really on, I would be proving Kuyukt right. Keep ****ing and make sure you bookmark these stuff because when I truly have the time, we know what the end result will be.

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Red - that's something **********s want. It is not just Trump. You know I don't have the time for this. If I was really on, I would be proving Kuyukt right. Keep ****ing and make sure you bookmark these stuff because when I truly have the time, we know what the end result will be.

*sigh*

Why can you never focus on one argument at a time?

**********s and all your other blather are irrelevant.

You said I was talking about old stuff. Common Core is a current affairs issue involving the Carnegie Foundation. So I proved you wrong yet again. End of story.

[siablo14]

*sigh*

Why can you never focus on one argument at a time?

**********s and all your other blather are irrelevant.

You said I was talking about old stuff. Common Core is a current affairs issue involving the Carnegie Foundation. So I proved you wrong yet again. End of story.

I wish I could bookmark posts to return to. My mind is not this, right now.
Bookmark your links, Choci.
You know we will be going over this.

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I wish I could bookmark posts to return to. My mind is not this, right now.
Bookmark your links, Choci.
You know we will be going over this.

All you're going to do is try to argue why Common Core is a good thing. Or a bad thing. Depending on which side the **********s are on...you'll just take the opposite side.

But to me all that "**********s vs ********s" crap is worthless. I'm not going to roll around in that cesspit with you.

They are both subordinate to the elite establishment.

I only bring up Common Core as an example of a current issue in which the large foundations are involved. To prove you wrong yet again that this isn't "old stuff."

That is the sole point and there's nothing more to discuss, unless you can prove that the Carnegie Foundation is somehow NOT INVOLVED with Common Core?