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  • juggernaut666
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    #51
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
    No fighter gets good pay fighting wilder, only AJ can at the moment. Whyte should just take the IBF route and safe himself all the wbc politics stress.
    I cant see Hearn advising him to fight Ortiz bc even if he wins hes going to have a long wait and against a more dangerous Ortiz .


    In the end Hearn is going to calculate that Joshua defeats Wilder at some point and that comes with rematches .


    He wants a Joshua vs Whyte fight for obvious reasons so Pulev the inactive guy ,less power is the way to go .

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      #52
      Originally posted by Eddie Hearn
      We don't mind fighting Ortiz but it has to be for the mandatory, not to be the 'second mandatory' behind a guy who has never fought an eliminator
      Another great example of Hearn blatantly lying to manipulate the public. Breazeale won a final eliminator, yet Hearn is claiming he never fought an eliminator. That is a blatant lie.

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        #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Another great example of Hearn blatantly lying to manipulate the public. Breazeale won a final eliminator, yet Hearn is claiming he never fought an eliminator. That is a blatant lie.
        what a surprise the guy who pretends to be part of the wbc, wba, and ibf comes in to try and defend corruption. why did they make #6 vs #12 a final eliminator? that is the question. especially since the highest ranked guy who was available(stirverne #1 was fighting wilder and #2 ortiz on suspension) which was #3 ranked whyte tried to fight breazele and he ducked him. so rankings simply dont matter anymore. if they want to give the #6 guy a shot cause hes with haymon then so be it.

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          #54
          Originally posted by daggum
          what a surprise the guy who pretends to be part of the wbc, wba, and ibf
          I don't pretend to be part of anything. I am not part of the WBC, WBA and IBF. Why are you lying about me?


          comes in to try and defend corruption.
          I am not defending anything, let alone corruption. I just pointed out that Hearn is blatantly lying. Because you know I'm telling the truth, you're changing the subject and attacking me. But you're not denying that Hearn is lying. Even you realize Hearn blatantly lied.


          why did they make #6 vs #12 a final eliminator? that is the question.
          It's a question I've answered dozens of times since October. I'll gladly answer it again.

          As part of a step aside agreement, Stiverne was allowed to put his mandatory status on the line against Breazeale. Just like Hearn just promoted a fight where Povetkin was allowed to put his mandatory status on the line against David Price. Had David Price won, he would have become mandatory. So Hearn can't complain about Stiverne being allowed to do that because Hearn just did the same thing.

          The problem is that Ortiz failed a test and Stiverne was moved into the main event. At that point, Breazeale already had a signed contract guaranteeing him a final eliminator. There was a legal dispute over how to handle the situation and the settlement was that Breazeale would be allowed to fight the highest available contender and it would still be treated as a final eliminator if Breazeale won.

          Whyte already had a fight scheduled, so when the WBC went down the rankings offering the fight in order to all of the contenders, Whyte said no. The first person to say yes was Molina, which is how Molina got the fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by daggum
            uh no thats not what happened at all. he was available, made breazele an offer and instead breazele signed to fight molina. molina was not next in line. he was ranked 12th. whyte 3rd at the time. breazele 6th. 6th vs 12th for atitle shot knowing 6 avoided 3? makes no sense.

            Eddie Hearn presented him with an alternative: a fight with Dillian Whyte on the October 28th undercard of Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev. Breazeale says he’s down and Hearn claims that “negotiations are already underway.”

            guess he wasn't down cause he knew he could get a shot fighting anyone for some reason.

            yes exactly my point. why should he fight someone good if he knows he doesn't have to. thats the whole point. the wbc is corrupt and gave him a shot for fighting the number 12 guy and clearly avoiding someone higher ranked who wanted to fight.
            Thats not true .


            Whyte challenged Breazeale who had no opponent for the Wilder /Washington card .


            Hearn made a offer to Breazeale to fight on HIS undercard against Whyte on the Joshua vs Takam card which would have nothing to do with nothing .


            Again why do that when he WAS said he would fight Wilder with a Molina win ?.

            Hearn cant present an alternative bc he isnt affiliated with Breazeale or the WBC ,he can only negotiate an offer , one Breazeales team didnt like enough to lose his spot .


            You guys can keep ignoring the fact that originally Stiverne WAS an elimination fight for Wilder but thats what Breazeale signed for .....thats what he got .
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-03-2018, 10:03 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by daggum
              so you think he should be taken advantage of and avoided so breazele can get a shot? this argument makes no sense. you don't let someone cheat you. bottom line. he already said he would fight ortiz if it guarantees him a shot but seeing as breazele just jumped him by fighting molina he has a solid complaint and should be asking what is going on here
              First off, I don’t agree with Brezeale being mandatory whatsoever, but two wrongs do not make a right. In an ideal world Brezeale should fight Whyte and the winner is mandatory.

              Whyte is not being taken advantage of nor avoided, wtf are you talking about? He didn’t EARN anything. Beating an inactive, out of shape Lucas Browne is NOT deserving of a mandatory title shot. Nor is beating Molina either but as I said two wrongs don’t make a right.

              Beating Ortiz does guarantee him a shot, it’s a final eliminator, therefore following Wilder-Brezeale, Whyte would be the mandatory. He’s just looking for excuses not to fight Ortiz cause he knows and we know Ortiz squashes this Whyte hype.

              Whyte always ****s on about wanting to fight the best to PROVE he’s a top HW, well he has a perfect opportunity to PROVE it against a legit top 5 HW in Ortiz. Let’s see if he’s a man of his word or just another matchroom b*tch running his mouth.

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                #57
                yeah that's a whack mando im not interested, but what I am interested in is Whyte vs his Mando Louis Ortiz, the one he and his fans called an old bum, id love to see that fight. seems like whyte is running from it
                Last edited by uppercut510; 05-03-2018, 10:14 AM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  Another great example of Hearn blatantly lying to manipulate the public. Breazeale won a final eliminator, yet Hearn is claiming he never fought an eliminator. That is a blatant lie.
                  The eliminator was cancelled. So should have been the contract, but the WBC are in Haymons pocket.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Another great example of Hearn blatantly lying to manipulate the public. Breazeale won a final eliminator, yet Hearn is claiming he never fought an eliminator. That is a blatant lie.
                    Its not a lie its what WBC President told him.

                    I even saw the convo on twitter .


                    If the WBC would stop lying there would be no confusion and everyone would have known it was a elimination fight for a title shot .

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      The eliminator was cancelled. So should have been the contract, but the WBC are in Haymons pocket.
                      Breazeale had a legally binding contract guaranteeing him a final eliminator. It wasn't his fault Ortiz failed a test.

                      No matter how you try to spin it, deep down you know Hearn is lying when he says Breazeale has never fought an eliminator. It's a blatant lie and a great example of how Hearn tries to fool people like you.

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