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  • Holler
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    #51
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    This is indicating Joshua has THREE choices .


    Its indicating theres NO set opponent , particularly bc Wilders side are being complicated and have a Breazeale fight lined up AND playing games by being non cooperative in the negotiating process.

    They're in negotiation with Wilder and Povetkin. This just reminds each of them they can't play one against the other because Miller remains a viable alternative to either.

    Povetkin doesn't want one cast off WBA belt when he could have the payday fight against AJ and a chance at all of them.

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    • fullers
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      #52
      Wilder is third on a list of three is what hearn means. The hearns and aj don't want no part of wilder derailing their easy defenses, easy money strategy. Wish they'd just admit it finally

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        #53
        Originally posted by fullers
        Wilder is third on a list of three is what hearn means. The hearns and aj don't want no part of wilder derailing their easy defenses, easy money strategy. Wish they'd just admit it finally
        The question is do they really want A.J. next!

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #54
          Originally posted by Fabes88
          Lol. Come on just call a spade a spade why would you cancel the meeting? Hearn never said no just that he wanted to discuss things further face to face. Bottom line is if they wanted the fight as much as they said they would’ve met him. If the shoe was on the other foot I’m sure you’d agree.
          I'm in business and it was obvious to me, Hearn had no intention of taking the fight or the offer. He showed no interest, he instantly stirred up a bunch of drama in social media to pander to the fanbase and blow smoke. If he wanted the 50m, or even the fight, he would have handled it differently. All along, it's been clear that he never wanted this one in 2019. If you look at it from that perspective, it's clear as day to anyone who isn't blinded fans allegiance to either side.
          Last edited by Redd Foxx; 05-01-2018, 02:48 AM.

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          • Holler
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            #55
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            I'm in business and it was obvious to me, Hearn had no intention of taking the fight or the offer.
            When you're conducting a negotiation do you prefer to send your proposals and counter proposals privately or via the press? Most serious people understand that a deal is far more likely to happen if both parties can be frank with each other away from the public gaze and, crucially, trust the other side with their private communications.

            Do you habitually refuse to meet with principals from your business partners or even discuss questions they may have regarding your proposals? If so, you're unlike any business person I've ever come across.

            You have a double standard in operation which you won't or can't acknowledge. You pillory Hearn for his disrespectful antics in the press, rightly in my view, because his actions have done nothing to ensure good faith between the parties, but then you give Wilder's side a pass for their equally if not greater breaches of basic good practice in negotiation.

            It's rank hypocrisy, but you seem to lack the insight to even recognise it.

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            • Meatsauce
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              #56
              I mean obviously the little British twink is gonna avoid Wilder.

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              • Redd Foxx
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                #57
                Originally posted by Holler
                When you're conducting a negotiation do you prefer to send your proposals and counter proposals privately or via the press? Most serious people understand that a deal is far more likely to happen if both parties can be frank with each other away from the public gaze and, crucially, trust the other side with their private communications.

                Do you habitually refuse to meet with principals from your business partners or even discuss questions they may have regarding your proposals? If so, you're unlike any business person I've ever come across.

                You have a double standard in operation which you won't or can't acknowledge. You pillory Hearn for his disrespectful antics in the press, rightly in my view, because his actions have done nothing to ensure good faith between the parties, but then you give Wilder's side a pass for their equally if not greater breaches of basic good practice in negotiation.

                It's rank hypocrisy, but you seem to lack the insight to even recognise it.
                Your bias is so deeply ingrained that you refuse to recognize the circus act that Hearn employs for what it is. You are simply a noise generator pretends to be purposely to the facts. So long as you base the premise in the idea that Hearn is a straight shooter (which so many dozens of industry people say he's not, FFS the guy used to put on poker tournaments) then it's clear you'll never concede a point. You're like the child that pretends the adult doesn't know better, and bases his whole argument in nonsense.

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                • thack
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                  #58
                  Wilder will be fine as he plods on with his illustrious low income career. I'll say one thing for old Bomb squad he must really love boxing .

                  Wilder v Breazale will be a classic, can't wait for that one.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by thack
                    Wilder will be fine as he plods on with his illustrious low income career. I'll say one thing for old Bomb squad he must really love boxing .

                    Wilder v Breazale will be a classic, can't wait for that one.
                    Joshua had no problems with Breazele. But I won`t be surprised if Breazeale beats Wilder.

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                    • Holler
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      Your bias is so deeply ingrained that you refuse to recognize the circus act that Hearn employs for what it is. You are simply a noise generator pretends to be purposely to the facts. So long as you base the premise in the idea that Hearn is a straight shooter (which so many dozens of industry people say he's not, FFS the guy used to put on poker tournaments) then it's clear you'll never concede a point. You're like the child that pretends the adult doesn't know better, and bases his whole argument in nonsense.
                      I pose you questions grounded in experience, you avoid them and respond with insults. This is a recurring pattern. It suggests you are either incapable or simply unwilling to conduct a civil debate.

                      I've also said nothing about Hearn being a straight shooter, on the contrary I've condemned his media based provoking of Finkel as prejudicing the chances of a successful deal.

                      I'm not the one who has a problem acknowledging the faults on each side of this scenario...

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