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  • #31
    Originally posted by sportbuddha View Post
    Yeah I thought that too, I also took this PR as a negotiation tactic to Wilder to say ‘we’re gonna make you a new offer, but don’t get greedy or we’ll take a another option’
    I believe the route Finkel took shows the fight wont happen next .

    Thats basically irrefutable based on a refusal to meet with another promoter whos stating hes interested on getting the fight done .

    A fight where the side thats attracting the cash are not allowed to look over paper work and persuaded to agree on a deal of the unknown would never happen with any credible manager / promoter .


    Someone has to be one dumb mofo not to see that .

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jimmy gold View Post
      Who is wilder ? Most of his fans didn’t even know he was till he beat bermane stiverne
      Fight fans know who he is and you know who he is. The question is does your boy Joshua want the fight because it doesn't sound like his fans does. I wonder why? Everyone will admit that Joshua is the A-side so popularity is conceded. Does he want that work?

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      • #33
        Interesting that the Joshua side has never said that they would accept 50mil. They've fussed about the contract (which comes after you've established the basics, like pay) but have never said they want or would accept 50mil. Sometimes, it's more about what someone DOESN'T say that gives away their intentions.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by arraamis View Post
          Exactly right!!!

          I've never went to buy a car and a salesman came running out the dealership waiving a contract before I even chose or stated that I wanted a certain car. (Doesn't happen!)

          I don't know how these guys on this forum think, but no one, and I mean no one offers up a contract before both parties agree to commence negotiation based on certain base agreements.

          I believe the sequence, vaguely, goes something like this:

          1. Agree to the fight
          2. Negotiate and Finalize terms
          3. Draw up the contract
          4. affix signatures

          What Team Wilder did was in fact, setup and start the terms for negotiation - no contract was needed at this point, nor could one exist without certain agreements being in place.

          All this constant back and forth on the forum is entertaining, but quite fruitless.

          Hearn wants to control this event from top to bottom and that's not what Team Wilder offered. Hearn knows better than anyone on this forum, that Haymon can deliver that cash. But that would mean giving up control and if AJ does lose, then Hearn wouldn't be in a position to dictate anything going forward.

          Hence, the smokescreen comments and new and improved offer that's coming Wilder's way.

          Some of you guys should know how this works by now.
          Spot on objective posting to the tenth power......they want to keep that control by any means necessary. They do have the UK on big time lock with AJ, so they'll use "promoter jargon" as wiggle room to escape having their bluff called......amazing indeed.

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          • #35
            I love how fat internet nerds on NSB tell Barry Hearn, a 40 year veteran of boxing and hall of famer, how to make a boxing match.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
              Why are you trying to **** around with Miller when you have a mandatory against Povetkin. There's a reason why it's called a mandatory. Means you have to Fight him. Understand ? Fight Povetkin next then wilder in the winter. And watch wilder struggle to beat Breazele.
              Supposedly whoever has Povetkin as a mandatory isn't opposed to letting Joshua fight a optional next.

              And I think Hearn knows Povetkin is a threat too so isn't mad at avoiding that one perhaps forever if Povetkin pops dirty between now & the fight taking place.

              Big Baby is probably the best guy who I'd give lil upset potential to thus it being one of the safer fights out there.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pugil1st View Post
                Fight fans know who he is and you know who he is. The question is does your boy Joshua want the fight because it doesn't sound like his fans does. I wonder why? Everyone will admit that Joshua is the A-side so popularity is conceded. Does he want that work?

                U said my boy? Im sorry for pointing out the obvious that wilder is 32 year old with 40 fights and barely making a name for himself to me he’s just trying to piggyback of ajs name nothing more nothing less to what I have stated

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                  Interesting that the Joshua side has never said that they would accept 50mil. They've fussed about the contract (which comes after you've established the basics, like pay) but have never said they want or would accept 50mil. Sometimes, it's more about what someone DOESN'T say that gives away their intentions.
                  A contract does not come after the price agreement if a contract or paper work is requested . Money has to be established first ,that doesnt mean you say yes or no over Emailing when NORMAL deals are done in board rooms where ACTUAL formalities are taking care of .


                  You know what is a GIVE AWAY ?


                  Someone who cancels scheduled meetings with the other party whos interested in the offer because he claims them to be UNPRODUCTIVE .

                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-30-2018, 09:39 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Barry Hearn on youtube regarding AJ fighting Wilder, "You may want to DUCK Deontay Wilder for a little while - he's STRONG."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Post
                      Haymon has given 9 figure paydays, Haymon is backed by showtime, CBS, and PBC investors, 50mil is nothing to him. Hearn is out of his league and knows brit fans wouldnt know any better than he tells them
                      AJ asked for 50 mil, Wilders team called his bluff. Hearns reply proves he is lying to AJ's fans. They probably feel dumb and ****** for being behind this guy and this fighter, I hope they realize its not the fighters fault, he's just a fighter and doesnt know much else. PED's have these effects, on peoples brains. I feel sorry for him, like when PAC was believing Arum.
                      Part of Wilder's terms are he gets to pick the location where the fight takes place. When AJ said he would fight Wilder for 50 million he meant he would fight him in the UK not Alabama.

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