Comments Thread For: Joshua's Promoter Plans To Make a "New" Offer To Wilder

[j0zef]

He didn't really give any details on the new offer. What a useless interview.

Also.. they want to fight Miller next instead of Povetkin? Why? Povetkin is a much better challenger, and he's mandatory. Weird choice.

[juggernaut666]

Curious if you've ever made a deal on anything before, such as a new car or house. Lenders ALWAYS make you agree to basic terms like price and, if you're financing, interest rate. This fight is no different. Wilder's team need not draw up a full contract for anyone if there is no starting point on basic terms, just as a mortgage lender isn't going to take the time to write up a contract if a buyer hasn't agreed to basic terms. Do you think lenders write up full contracts and present them to random people on the street in hopes that they want to buy a house or car? No, they do not. They talk with a buyer whose interested, come up with basic terms such as price, interest rate, have the buyer sign a good-faith agreement on basic terms, THEN they draw up the contract and supporting docs. If the buyer doesn't like some aspect of the contract, he can further negotiate or back out. I've bought two houses and several cars in my life. I don't see what is unreasonable here.

You post quite a lot (mostly pure drivel), so I'm assuming that maybe you don't work and that you have probably never made a major purchase deal. AJ wanted $50 million dollars; that's what he specifically asked for to accept a fight. He was offered that, but his promoter still balked. Why? Because Hearn does not want this fight for his man yet. There is still money to be made from AJ before that wagon tips over. Hearn REGULARLY admits this on his own, IF you listen to what he says.

Wilder's team was ready to negotiate their $50 million offer, not to sit down with Eddie and start over completely from scratch. That is why they wanted a good-faith commitment from Hearn before meeting. They wanted him to accept that they would be talking about that deal, not some other Hearn bull****. That is how this **** works, as BOTH sides have already acknowledged. I am trying to be objective, but the b.s. is getting thick in here. The whole non-British world sees what's up. It's as clear as day which side is avoiding this fight.

"Wilder's team need not draw up a full contract for anyone if there is no starting point on basic terms, "



Exactly which why a meeting is necessary to continue any further details since Finkel denied ANY details relating to the offer bc Finkel did not want to send a starting contract .


Im not british therfor it is you struggling to be objective as anyone with any intelligence KNOWS why Hearn just cant flat out say yes .

Though he was interested but Finkel went back on his word and didnt meet to discuss the ACTUAL fight .......


You know how fights are ACTUALLY made so contracts can be created , terms from both parties discussed and concluded !

[juggernaut666]

He didn't really give any details on the new offer. What a useless interview.

Also.. they want to fight Miller next instead of Povetkin? Why? Povetkin is a much better challenger, and he's mandatory. Weird choice.

Not if Hearn is pursuing the Wilder fight .

If team Wilder wanted the Joshua fight next , there would be no need talking Miller or Povetkin .

Hearn will want Joshua fighting in the U.S to show he is a bigger draw than Wilder on his own turf and he then would have an opportunity to bring more attention to the Wilder fight bc Wilder doesnt actually do that outside of social media .


Thats if Povetkin takes side step money .

[AlstonB]

Same old Trickery being attempted by Eddie Hearn

This is the way the fight game and contract negotiations work; A verbal offer always precedes the contract. Only if the offer is accepted will a contract be sent.

Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearn are only putting up a smoke screens to blind the uninitiated...those without knowledge or experience.

When Hearn made his laughable offer of 12.5 million to Deontay Wilder for a fight with Anthony Joshua (with a deadline to accept) did he include a contract? No! Why? Because Deontay never accepted his offer.

When Hearn made an offer for Deontay Wilder to fight Dillon Whyte. Did you include a contract? No! Why because Deontay did not accept your offer.

When Eddie Hearn made an offer to Wladimir Klitschko to fight Anthony Joshua, did he send a contract? No! It was only after some additional verbal negotiations and Wladimir acceptance of a revised offer, that a contract was sent to Wladimir.

How can Eddie Hearn, in good conscience, brazenly complain that he has not received a contract from Team Wilder, when his own track record proves that boxing negotiations are not conducted that way?

If Anthony Joshua act like a "man of his word" and agrees to accept the offer, Promoter Lou DiBella - Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel will gladly present Team Joshua with a detailed contract.... indicating date of fight, fight venue, proof of funds and any other relevant information.

[kafkod]

You know how many contracts they would be dealing with it they sent one every offer. You negotiate every little thing in a contract that's what you meet up for not the offer. You accept if they say the money works you negotiate the terms.

Yeah, you negotiate every little thing in a contract .. including the money. Asking somebody to say they accept a certain sum of money before you will negotiate with them, or even show them a draft contract of the terms you are offering, is bull****.

If Wilder's offer is legit and they really want the fight, what possible reason could there be for refusing to meet Hearn and give him the info he he is asking for?

If they think he's bluffing and he doesn't want the fight, fine .. call his bluff and put this charade to bed.

[juggernaut666]

hmmm they did respond to hearn, they said agree to the money you requested and then we will work out the details. Last time I will write this Hearn said the way he does business is by sending over contracts, why send an offer to wilder , why not a contract if that is the way he does business. Finkel shouldn’t have to ask for a contract if that’s the way hearn does business. Let me explain it like this , if you order a cheeseburger, you didn’t not have to ask for the cheese right ? I will explain it another way and here is a form that ever guy should understand, I eat ***** before sex , a girl doesn’t have to ask for it , it’s the way I have sex. Hearn said he sends overs contracts so send one over and let’s see what happens. Do you kinda understand now ?

They did not respond to Hearns offer .


The actions they took when Hearn requested a contract from their offer was not an option for Hearn not to accept because only a ******ed, incompetent manager would do that if hes being denied meetings and contracts he has 24 hours to agree too .


O.K im done with you here , youve made my top 10 dumbest posters with that last babble of SHYTE !

[Smash]

if wilders offer was so good, they would try to sell it to hearn, but they do the opposite, short deadlines, refuse to meet (wtf) never heard of that one before, they have something to hide, this is a massive fight, everything needs to be out in the open, what happens if hearns waits, is this great offer gona suddenly disappear into the wind, would be a shame, since these guys are pros and have such a great offer, secret offer tho

[Patsfan bri]

When you consider the fact that 65% of Americans have never left the country and travelled to broaden their horizons it baffles me that so many ,certainly more than 65% don't know who Wilder is .Quite sad really that Tony Tubbs was better known, nothing against Tony by the way.

I suggest Wilder gets himself noticed maybe uses some of this $50 m he's talking about ,makes his ppv debut then goes and see's A.J. the undisputed cash cow of the division but be careful not to get knocked off for peanuts when fighting Breazle or what ever his name is.

Sorry lads that's the reality.

I’m so glad you speak for Americans, especially the boxing fans in the US. I would be curious to see where you get your stats from.

[Patsfan bri]

They did not respond to Hearns offer .


The actions they took when Hearn requested a contract from their offer was not an option for Hearn not to accept because only a ******ed, incompetent manager would do that if hes being denied meetings and contracts he has 24 hours to agree too .


O.K im done with you here , youve made my top 10 dumbest posters with that last babble of SHYTE !

It’s obvious you have a hard time to admit your wrong . It’s ok. I mean I could think of 50 million good reasons as a starting point and you refusing to answer my question and insulting me just proves YOUR WRONG so suck it up buttercup. See ya

[kafkod]

This is the way the fight game and contract negotiations work; A verbal offer always precedes the contract. Only if the offer is accepted will a contract be sent.

That's bull**** mate. No boxing promoter verbally accepts an offer without knowing the details.

"Fiddy millon dollar. Assep ma oeffer"