Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder: It's Complicated

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  • Holler
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    #21
    Originally posted by Noelanthony
    Hush and keep your comments in Turkey where they belong. Before I send my team ( Arsenal) to come and do a job on your team again
    Trying to think how bad a team has to be that this Arsenal side can actually beat them.

    Away from home.

    My head hurts. No, it's not happening...

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    • Rubber Ducky
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      #22
      It really isn't complicated.

      One sides promoter has made a private offer with a clear business model to finance it with a 10 day response time and will shortly make another after that was ignored, the other side made a public offer including the worlds press, directly from the boxer by a personal email, with no proven way of financing it and a 1 day take it or leave it stipulation.

      One side has gone to the US twice to try and set up a meeting, the other side as cancelled 2 meetings and the fighter has refused to travel and be ringside of the other's most recent fight.

      One side has unified the titles twice inside 2 years of winning a title and fought 4-5 top 10 heavyweights, the other after 3 years of holding a title has never unified and fought 1-2 top 10 heavyweights.

      One side wants it, the other side just pretends they want it.

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      • Holler
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        #23
        Originally posted by lex_fugitive

        The entire world is literally laughing at boxing. How can you have a champion who is so scared of another heavyweight that he turns down $50 million?
        Easy to answer this one. You take all the arguments you believed in for the 'how can you have a champion who is so scared of another heavyweight that he turns down $12.5mn and you recycle them switching the new amount and adding a couple of lines about conducting business via social media and refusing to discuss detail or even have a meeting.


        Wilder is the #1 heavyweight in the world. The true heavyweight champion. Everyone outside of England and over half the people in England all know this.
        Until they meet in the ring this will remain a topic of speculation. However there are still useful ways of objectively assessing the relative merits of each fighter. This includes looking at the respective records of each man, the quality and rankings of their opposition, the best win on each respective resume and the progression of sir relative careers.

        I look forward to you backing up yr assertion using those criteria.

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        • Noelanthony
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          #24
          Originally posted by Holler
          Trying to think how bad a team has to be that this Arsenal side can actually beat them.

          Away from home.

          My head hurts. No, it's not happening...
          I know that is why I have switched to boxing

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            #25
            Originally posted by BoZz
            Putting a gun to his head and forcing him would lead to prison time, that's the only way you'd get hearn to sit down and negotiate.



            ****** go trough my past posts and you'll see that I talked more sh** against Wilder than Joshua, but I am not a fan boy so I call it how it is, in this case Joshua is clearly ducking. Btw if you're from the UK don't reply to my posts anymore, I have no interest in talking to casual fan boys.
            You are trying to choke your middle hole. You know nothing what you are talking about.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Holler
              Easy to answer this one. You take all the arguments you believed in for the 'how can you have a champion who is so scared of another heavyweight that he turns down $12.5mn and you recycle them switching the new amount and adding a couple of lines about conducting business via social media and refusing to discuss detail or even have a meeting.




              Until they meet in the ring this will remain a topic of speculation. However there are still useful ways of objectively assessing the relative merits of each fighter. This includes looking at the respective records of each man, the quality and rankings of their opposition, the best win on each respective resume and the progression of sir relative careers.

              I look forward to you backing up yr assertion using those criteria.
              This is all too complicating. Add this and subtract that, nah it’s easier to say Team Joshua are a bunch of cowards

              Nicely articulated point by the way

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              • Holler
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                #27
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                I know that is why I have switched to boxing
                Yes, although watching crushing blows repeatedly landing on a defenceless and exposed victim that is seemingly incapable of fighting back would get tiring after awhile. It's a blood sport after all.

                But enough of Arsenal...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Holler
                  Yes, although watching crushing blows repeatedly landing on a defenceless and exposed victim that is seemingly incapable of fighting back would get tiring after awhile. It's a blood sport after all.

                  But enough of Arsenal...
                  I like that������ and I will definitely stomach and accept the insults because you deserved to win the premiership. You are a Man City fan I trust?

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                  • Holler
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    I like that������ and I will definitely stomach and accept the insults because you deserved to win the premiership. You are a Man City fan I trust?
                    Nah, actually I almost thought twice about taking the open goal you gave me. So apologies for that.

                    In any case, they're not my team but as a football fan it's been painful watching Wengers long walk into the night. He really did move the game on here and aside from his occasional myopia or tantrums he's been a good force off the pitch too. I also have a great deal of respect for how Arsenal have transformed themselves off the pitch. They are a superbly run club, commercially etc.

                    I'm no city fan, although i had a soft spot for them. My club share something in common with yours, at least at present...

                    Any guesses?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lion33lit
                      You keep lovin' your hero! A real brave "champion" that has "OVERPAID" opponents in "RISK FREE FIGHTS".......There's ONE GUY he aint "OVERPAYING" though!! Get drunk, load up on your chips, go see him and wish you could be him.......real crusty cute thinkin'
                      It was a bit childish on my part I can openly admit it. Now I like Deontay Wilder so I don’t want to **** on him just to prove a point to you.😂😂 but I will here goes...... No I won’t but in all honesty Deontay has had 40 fights. Joshua has had 21 fights. Deontay has been a pro longer than him yet Joshua has 3 belts compared to Wilders one. I rate Ortiz irrespective of what anyone says about him he is a bad dangerous dude and props for coming through that but even with that victory you have not reached that apex to look down at another champions opponents and call them all bums especially when that champion, forget money because that’s bull**** but holds more belts than you, has fought a similar bum to you which the particular bum in question gave him a stanky leg and you fight another of his bums in Brezeale that he fought 2 years ago in his 16th fight

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