Is Andre Ward an all-time top 10 p4p?

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  • Eddy Current
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    Is Andre Ward an all-time top 10 p4p?

    His career accomplishments:


    1. Olympic gold medal

    2. Made Carl Froch look like an amateur

    3. Made Arthur Abraham look like an amateur

    4. Career record of 32-0

    5. Moved above his natural weight and beat the baddest mad in the division twice

    6. May actually be the son of God
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    hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      In Oakland.

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      • sunny31
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        #4
        Definitely top 100. Maybe top 75.

        Not sure what hole some of you guys crawl out of with these ideas.

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        • Dip_Slide
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          Absolutely not, he's not even in the top 20 American fighters ever. He might be in the top 10 Super middleweights ever and that's a very good accomplishment but as far as being a real top 10 or even 20 atg he would've had to accomplish 3X as much as he did to even be in the conversation.

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          • abracada
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            #6
            Originally posted by Julia Slobberts
            His career accomplishments:


            1. Olympic gold medal

            2. Made Carl Froch look like an amateur

            3. Made Arthur Abraham look like an amateur

            4. Career record of 32-0

            5. Moved above his natural weight and beat the baddest mad in the division twice

            6. May actually be the son of God
            Better than Mayweather for sure, he made Kovalev look like an amature.

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              #7
              Not top 10, that's a very exclusive neighborhood.

              Plus apparently Vanes Martirosyan was the best boxer on that 2004 Olympic squad, not SOG.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Julia Slobberts
                His career accomplishments:


                1. Olympic gold medal

                2. Made Carl Froch look like an amateur

                3. Made Arthur Abraham look like an amateur

                4. Career record of 32-0

                5. Moved above his natural weight and beat the baddest mad in the division twice

                6. May actually be the son of God
                1. So? Lots of gold medals out there.

                2. That's because Froch is an amateur and when he was an amateur he lost to Peter Manfredo Jr lmao.



                Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Froch#Amateur_career

                3. Chris Eubank Jr (120-108) and Gilberto Ramirez (120-108) made Abraham look like an amateur too. Arthur is 5'9" at 168. He never belonged at that weight. Best win was a shot Taylor and Edison Miranda (b-level).

                4. 32-0 isn't impressive at all.

                5. His pro debut was 168. His first 3 fights were at 168, then he dropped to 160 for a 7 fights probably to be a bítch áss weight-bully and realized he just couldn't do it and went back to his natural weight. He moved up ONE weight class which is very unimpressive and he cried the entire way. Kovalev was unproven and all hype. Not impressed.

                6. If that's your flavor, we're all sons of God.

                I think top 50 would be a very big stretch. Top 100 maybe, but I would have to see the list. Maybe like a 99 or somethinig.
                Last edited by McNulty; 04-29-2018, 01:35 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by abracada
                  Better than Mayweather for sure, he made Kovalev look like an amature.
                  Made Weeks look like an amateur, actually.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Made Weeks look like an amateur, actually.
                    Lol touché

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