Timeline: Champion Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder

[soul_survivor]

So let us take an unbiased, factually accurate look at events leading up to today.

31st March - AJ outclasses and beats Parker

2nd April - Shelley Finkel states - "He is ready to sign and come to the UK"

11th April - AJ releases a statement “I’d rather fight Wilder so if Povetkin can wait some time in 2019, that would be ideal,” said Joshua.

12th April - It is reported that Eddie Hearn has sent an offer to Wilder's team. Finkel makes several claims, primarily that the offer is a "flat fee" and there is a "48 hour take it or leave it clause".

13th April - Long interview with Hearn, no mention of a 48 hour deadline. Claims fight can not be worth $100 million as Finkel claims.

AJ interview is released, says if it is a $100 million fight then Wilder and co should give him $50 million.

Soon after, Hearn states he will be going to the US, dual purpose of promoting Jacobs and organising a meeting with Finkel and co.

25th April - Thirteen days later, Wilder releases video claiming a $50 million offer. Newspaper reports suggest a "24 hour take it or leave it". AJ, via instagram, states "lets go".

26th April - Hearn claims the offer is a "PR move". States he must see a contract. He also states a further meeting would be beneficial for both sides.

27th April - Finkel and co release their email to Hearn, in which it states they will refuse to meet with their rival promoter unless AJ agrees to the $50 million offer. No mention is made of AJs social media post.

28th April - Hearn is in New York. Finkel, Haymon and Wilder refuse to meet.

[uppercut510]

from my understanding of how contracts work, fighters agree to details before they sit and talk, the majority of fights are actually signed weeks and sometimes the day of the fight. So what wilders team is saying is, agree to the terms THAT AJ ASKED FOR, and then we can talk and work out a deal on everything else. Hearn tried the same thing, with no venue or date and everyone said WILDER SHOULD TAKE IT AND SHUT THE HELL UP, but now suddenly those same posters have taken a new stance and want to know where the money is coming from, think its a hoax, and surprisingly dont want to see the fight get made. when hearn wanted to sign wilder he said he thinks it can be an $100mil fight now its changed to $40-60mil, so if AJ gets a Guaranteed $50mil then why wouldnt he jump at that? either way it goes what ever hearn does n says these posters will justify it, even when he blatantly contradicts himself. I think now both sides are building the interest together... but overall wilder wants the fight, AJ doesnt mind, hearn is the issue and its not happening next. but we can all argue until something happens which is the boxingscene way!!!

[juggernaut666]

from my understanding of how contracts work, fighters agree to details before they sit and talk, the majority of fights are actually signed weeks and sometimes the day of the fight. So what wilders team is saying is, agree to the terms THAT AJ ASKED FOR, and then we can talk and work out a deal on everything else. Hearn tried the same thing, with no venue or date and everyone said WILDER SHOULD TAKE IT AND SHUT THE HELL UP, but now suddenly those same posters have taken a new stance and want to know where the money is coming from, think its a hoax, and surprisingly dont want to see the fight get made. when hearn wanted to sign wilder he said he thinks it can be an $100mil fight now its changed to $40-60mil, so if AJ gets a Guaranteed $50mil then why wouldnt he jump at that? either way it goes what ever hearn does n says these posters will justify it, even when he blatantly contradicts himself. I think now both sides are building the interest together... but overall wilder wants the fight, AJ doesnt mind, hearn is the issue and its not happening next. but we can all argue until something happens which is the boxingscene way!!!

1. "from my understanding of how contracts work, fighters agree to details before they sit and talk,"


What details were given to Hearn ? "

2. " majority of fights are actually signed weeks and sometimes the DAY of the fight."


3. "He said he thinks it can be an $100mil fight now its changed to $40-60mil, so if AJ gets a Guaranteed $50mil then why wouldnt he jump at that? "


He thinks it COULD be a huge fight IF hes able to build it up .

Nothing was guaranteed nor any payment amounts disclosed or any method of payment of time span.


Keep on posting with what other morons are saying bc its fake news , obviously these arent your own words but it makes you foolish .


In short when you have ANY large amounts of money ,you dont budge without at LEAST a sit down discussions ....get real !

[soul_survivor]

1. "from my understanding of how contracts work, fighters agree to details before they sit and talk,"


What details were given to Hearn ? "

2. " majority of fights are actually signed weeks and sometimes the DAY of the fight."


3. "He said he thinks it can be an $100mil fight now its changed to $40-60mil, so if AJ gets a Guaranteed $50mil then why wouldnt he jump at that? "


He thinks it COULD be a huge fight IF hes able to build it up .

Nothing was guaranteed nor any payment amounts disclosed or any method of payment of time span.


Keep on posting with what other morons are saying bc its fake news , obviously these arent your own words but it makes you foolish .


In short when you have ANY large amounts of money ,you dont budge without at LEAST a sit down discussions ....get real !

Pretty much these. All the AAs on here are simply regurgitating the same old thing, not even realising whats happening in the real world.

from my understanding of how contracts work, fighters agree to details before they sit and talk, the majority of fights are actually signed weeks and sometimes the day of the fight. So what wilders team is saying is, agree to the terms THAT AJ ASKED FOR, and then we can talk and work out a deal on everything else. Hearn tried the same thing, with no venue or date and everyone said WILDER SHOULD TAKE IT AND SHUT THE HELL UP, but now suddenly those same posters have taken a new stance and want to know where the money is coming from, think its a hoax, and surprisingly dont want to see the fight get made. when hearn wanted to sign wilder he said he thinks it can be an $100mil fight now its changed to $40-60mil, so if AJ gets a Guaranteed $50mil then why wouldnt he jump at that? either way it goes what ever hearn does n says these posters will justify it, even when he blatantly contradicts himself. I think now both sides are building the interest together... but overall wilder wants the fight, AJ doesnt mind, hearn is the issue and its not happening next. but we can all argue until something happens which is the boxingscene way!!!

If you read the timeline, you can see, with your on eyes, that AJ accepted the $50 million. Regardless of that , what serious negotiator puts off a meeting with a man who has flown 3000 miles? Does that make any sense?

[uppercut510]

Pretty much these. All the AAs on here are simply regurgitating the same old thing, not even realising whats happening in the real world.



If you read the timeline, you can see, with your on eyes, that AJ accepted the $50 million. Regardless of that , what serious negotiator puts off a meeting with a man who has flown 3000 miles? Does that make any sense?

aj accepted but hearn hasnt bruv, hopefully they meet, all these hoops and circles seem to be apart of building the fight, hearn has contradicted himself more than 10x so who knows

[Kezzer]

Shelly allowed Hearn to go back to the U.K. having not met in person. Worse than that, he cancelled a meeting twice.

Given Hearn isn't going to be in the US again before he povetkin mandatory timeframe is up then they had no serious ambitions to have the fight sorted. Clearly a PR stunt, maybe trying to increase wilders payday in a future deal?

[juggernaut666]

Shelly allowed Hearn to go back to the U.K. having not met in person. Worse than that, he cancelled a meeting twice.

Given Hearn isn't going to be in the US again before he povetkin mandatory timeframe is up then they had no serious ambitions to have the fight sorted. Clearly a PR stunt, maybe trying to increase wilders payday in a future deal?

inkel didnt ask for a contract concerning Hearns offer to give 4.5 Million to Wilder to face Whyte.

Hearn ASKED for a contract concerning FIFTY million bc Finkel flat out refused a meeting , you dont think theres reason right ?


Finkel didnt ask for a contract bc he knows he would have gotten one bc that was a fight Hearn WANTED to build the Joshua fight in the U.K .


We already know team Wilder didnt want to do that ( build the Joshua fight )and will look to use Joshuas name to build HIS own profile up .

1. Wilder NO show in the U.K at Joshua vs Parker .

2. No reply counter offer for weeks

3. Pushed back /cancelled meetings

4. Unwilling to discuss an alledged 50 Million dollar topic face to face .

5. Finkel has discussed more negotiations with the media than Hearn .

6. In Finkels letter/letters it DIRECTLY states they are looking at the END of the year .

Thats because they have a Breazeale fight lined up or someone else so they dont even want the fight next .



Its exactly that a move to get more money for when the fight does take place IF Wilder doesn't lose .

They even put a no rematch claus , dont they like money ?

The 12.5 million offer itself generates 25 to POTENTIALLY 35 Million for Wilder _____


Its like they are purposely misleading Wilder .

[soul_survivor]

aj accepted but hearn hasnt bruv, hopefully they meet, all these hoops and circles seem to be apart of building the fight, hearn has contradicted himself more than 10x so who knows

So we're in agreement that AJ has accepted?

This is direct from Finkel's email to Hearn. "“Please have Anthony accept the offer that he asked for and let’s get this fight made."

The stipulation for a possible meeting is AJ accepted, which happened the day of the offer for the world to see.

On top of that, Hearn first spoke of a meeting with Wilder's team last week, long before a $50 million offer, so why are Wilder and company setting up obstacles for a simple meeting? It's their job yet they seem to be shy.

If you put aside your personal opinions and all the propaganda, it is pretty easy to see who is willing to make the fight and who is not.

Shelly allowed Hearn to go back to the U.K. having not met in person. Worse than that, he cancelled a meeting twice.

Given Hearn isn't going to be in the US again before he povetkin mandatory timeframe is up then they had no serious ambitions to have the fight sorted. Clearly a PR stunt, maybe trying to increase wilders payday in a future deal?

Exactly!

There should have been no reason to avoid a simple meeting between potential business partners. If it isn't cowardice, it is at the very least a very unprofessional way of acting and not worthy of a supposed world class group operating a supposed world class fighter.

[soul_survivor]

inkel didnt ask for a contract concerning Hearns offer to give 4.5 Million to Wilder to face Whyte.

Hearn ASKED for a contract concerning FIFTY million bc Finkel flat out refused a meeting , you dont think theres reason right ?


Finkel didnt ask for a contract bc he knows he would have gotten one bc that was a fight Hearn WANTED to build the Joshua fight in the U.K .


We already know team Wilder didnt want to do that ( build the Joshua fight )and will look to use Joshuas name to build HIS own profile up .

1. Wilder NO show in the U.K at Joshua vs Parker .

2. No reply counter offer for weeks

3. Pushed back /cancelled meetings

4. Unwilling to discuss an alledged 50 Million dollar topic face to face .

5. Finkel has discussed more negotiations with the media than Hearn .

6. In Finkels letter/letters it DIRECTLY states they are looking at the END of the year .

Thats because they have a Breazeale fight lined up or someone else so they dont even want the fight next .



Its exactly that a move to get more money for when the fight does take place IF Wilder doesn't lose .

They even put a no rematch claus , dont they like money ?

The 12.5 million offer itself generates 25 to POTENTIALLY 35 Million for Wilder _____


Its like they are purposely misleading Wilder .

$50 million is such a big number it has gotten Wilder main stream media attention in the UK and US for the first time. It is a nonsense offer and like I stated, the fight will happen but no one is getting paid $50 mill.

[juggernaut666]

$50 million is such a big number it has gotten Wilder main stream media attention in the UK and US for the first time. It is a nonsense offer and like I stated, the fight will happen but no one is getting paid $50 mill.

Well they have valued Joshua at 50 Million .


What theyve done is make it more difficult now bc thats a mark Hearn can work with .

Wilder will be more positioned to create a SLIGHTLY more valued price of himself which WAS the focus anyway .


This will leave big headed Wilder ( He still believes Joshua is the one struggling ) to once again leverage for more than hes worth even moreso .


The fight really cant happen until late 2019 /2020 because of what team Wilder did here bc now BOTH guys are going to be positioning for more ....


The difference is Wilders spiteful of Joshua and is greedy , ..I really hope he gets knocked out bc that will be just as satisfying to see his greed ruin this scheme .


IF this fight does keep growing there will be 50 million payday for sure but were talking 2 years that the fight could be 100 plus Million .