Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager To Hearn: Accept and We'll Send Proof, Contract

[kafkod]

"If this is real, we are interested" is very different from, "If this is real, we accept."

The way Hearn phrased things, he could sit down, have Finkel reveal his hand, and then say, well 50 million was interesting, but we never actually said we'd take it and actually we need 60.

[The plunger man]

Ok. So what verbal agreement is Joshua entering into by Hearn saying they accept the 50M and 50% financial arrangement?

Is it even a commitment to fight or just a commitment to the financial arrangement if they do fight?

I dont know you tell me lol.....your the one asking joshua to agree to it without looking over the small print.
Yiu actually just checked yourself with your own question lol

[Ake-Dawg]

I dont know you tell me lol.....your the one asking joshua to agree to it without looking over the small print.
Yiu actually just checked yourself with your own question lol

So you bring up a verbal contract but don't even know if or what kind of verbal contract Hearn and Joshua would be entering. That seems like you're arguing for argument sake.

Agreeing to the financial arrangement is in no way a commitment to fight. It is just a starting point to negotiations. The same starting point for several past and future fights.

[Jimmy gold]

Wilder is scared aj will take his belt smh

[The plunger man]

So you bring up a verbal contract but don't even know if or what kind of verbal contract Hearn and Joshua would be entering. That seems like you're arguing for argument sake.

Agreeing to the financial arrangement is in no way a commitment to fight. It is just a starting point to negotiations. The same starting point for several past and future fights.

I'm saying we have no idea what wilders team have in place for joshuas team to agree to...anybody can offer 50 million but its also important to know what else is addedon to it.
Wilders team had there bluff called and thats why they cancelled the meeting.....they have not get 50 million to offer thats the bottom line lol

[Ake-Dawg]

I'm saying we have no idea what wilders team have in place for joshuas team to agree to...anybody can offer 50 million but its also important to know what else is addedon to it.
Wilders team had there bluff called and thats why they cancelled the meeting.....they have not get 50 million to offer thats the bottom line lol

I think Finkel was very clear that he was only asking Hearn to agree to the financial terms. He asked that they agree on that first and then negotiate other terms. That's in writing and protects Hearn from the legal ramifications that you're concerned about.

Look, Hearn just doesn't want to face the optics of backing out due to some sponsorship conflict or backing out because he feels Wilder is going to get 50-50 because the fight does 120M. I get that. I just don't like how he has mislead you guys into believing it's somehow Finkel and Haymon that are the road blocks.

[The plunger man]

I think Finkel was very clear that he was only asking Hearn to agree to the financial terms. He asked that they agree on that first and then negotiate other terms. That's in writing and protects Hearn from the legal ramifications that you're concerned about.

Look, Hearn just doesn't want to face the optics of backing out due to some sponsorship conflict or backing out because he feels Wilder is going to get 50-50 because the fight does 120M. I get that. I just don't like how he has mislead you guys into believing it's somehow Finkel and Haymon that are the road blocks.

It will not do 120 million..where the hell do yiu get these numbers from.
Wilder is an unkown entity in his own country and has never aold a ppv event in his prp career.
If finkel really had an offer they would have met hearn but its pie in the sky with there figures its that simple.
Wilder is fighting breazeale next so they had no intention of fighting aj.
Now what will happen is hearn will again make an offer to wilders team and if they turn that down then hearn and joshua will move on.
Wilder will then carry on earning his chicken feed and joshua will keep selling out 90k stadiums and making 15 million a fight.
I hope wilder agrees to the new offer so joshua can finally put him to sleep because its becoming a bore now.
You dont agree anything over an email and i dont know what planet you are on if any fight has ever been made like that.
Wake up man and just admit wilder is ducking aj

[Ake-Dawg]

It will not do 120 million..where the hell do yiu get these numbers from.
Wilder is an unkown entity in his own country and has never aold a ppv event in his prp career.
If finkel really had an offer they would have met hearn but its pie in the sky with there figures its that simple.
Wilder is fighting breazeale next so they had no intention of fighting aj.
Now what will happen is hearn will again make an offer to wilders team and if they turn that down then hearn and joshua will move on.
Wilder will then carry on earning his chicken feed and joshua will keep selling out 90k stadiums and making 15 million a fight.
I hope wilder agrees to the new offer so joshua can finally put him to sleep because its becoming a bore now.
You dont agree anything over an email and i dont know what planet you are on if any fight has ever been made like that.
Wake up man and just admit wilder is ducking aj

So why can't Hearn call and say "I agree to the financial terms"? And unless you are a promoter that's done big fights I'm not sure how either if us is qualified to say what the fight will do if promoted well for the next 4 to 6 months. My 120M should have included the word "if".

Now again, you make assumptions on top of assumptions to come to a conclusion that Wilder is ducking. Not sure why. Me, I say neither is ducking but one promoter has a "brand" he is trying to manage and has risk based monetary decisions to make that requires more detail than Team Wilder is willing to divulge unless the split is agreed to.

[The plunger man]

So why can't Hearn call and say "I agree to the financial terms"? And unless you are a promoter that's done big fights I'm not sure how either if us is qualified to say what the fight will do if promoted well for the next 4 to 6 months. My 120M should have included the word "if".

Now again, you make assumptions on top of assumptions to come to a conclusion that Wilder is ducking. Not sure why. Me, I say neither is ducking but one promoter has a "brand" he is trying to manage and has risk based monetary decisions to make that requires more detail than Team Wilder is willing to divulge unless the split is agreed to.

You dont offer 50 million without some proof backing it up its that simple and if they had proof they would have met hearn but instead they cancelled the meeting and it was just an email sent out fisrt to the media then to matchroom.
Wilder can not back up that 50 million guarantee thats all the facts you ned to accept

[Ake-Dawg]

You dont offer 50 million without some proof backing it up its that simple and if they had proof they would have met hearn but instead they cancelled the meeting and it was just an email sent out fisrt to the media then to matchroom.
Wilder can not back up that 50 million guarantee thats all the facts you ned to accept

You can't sustain an argument without your "if". It's your tool to ignore subsequently learned facts. Finkel was explicit, agree to the financial part of the deal and I will provide proof of funds and a contract. That's a pretty direct statement.

You seem to be more interested in playing a blame game. I guess that's easier than critical thought and attention to detail, especially when dealing with a post that doesn't accuse one side of ducking.