Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager To Hearn: Accept and We'll Send Proof, Contract

[Illmatic94]

this shelley person brings up some valid points but neglects to mention the major point which is the 50 million dollar offer.

in the cases that were referenced, it could be reasonably safe to assume that joshua's team had the funding available to make the offers that they did since AJ has had big purses.

in wilder's case he made 3 mil in his last fight and has yet to make 5 mil for 1 fight but somehow there's 50 million dollars sitting on the table for this fight. given this gigantic gap between the purses that wilder has been capable of making compared to this new 50 million dollar figure that came out of nowhere, it is not unreasonable to request proof. anyone involved should be asking for proof given this huge disparity.

Your post makes it sound as if the $50 million is coming from Wilder's personal bank account. It's not. He has backers and investors. Haymon and Finkel are heavyweights in this business. Eddie Hearn inherited contacts and privilege from his daddy who the FcK is he to put big sharks like Haymon/Finkel on trial?

Haymon was able to get a $400 million dollar chest for his PBC venture and this newborn cub Hearn wants to question his ability to front $50 million? get real.

Hearn is a poodle surrounded by pitbulls and hyenas. This $50 million offer was basically a cold powder handed pimp slap to put Hearn back in his place at the kiddie table.

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All Eddie Hearn has to do is say yes, we accept the fight if we get paid $50 million.

Simple.

[BDG]

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I think the lad above answers

Fair Play...I was just responding to your posts because it didn't look like that's what you were implying.

I can respect a convo that doesn't turn WWE and start slanging insults.

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Hearn said interested, but never actually said he would accept if the offer is real. He's trying to leave himself wiggle room to ask for even more money. Finkel & Haymon aren't going to fall for that.

And Hearn is too smart to be tricked into saying he agrees to something that might come back to bite him in the arse when he actually sees it and realises ... Hey ... that's not what I thought I was agreeing to ...

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That's not a good answer. Hearn has said, repeatedly, "We are interested in this offer, but we need to see the details before we agree to anything."

And all he needs to add is, "if the details are agreeable, we would accept the offer."

But by refusing to say whether he'd accept the 50 million, there's no sense in going over less important aspects of the deal.

I presume Haymon and his accountants, lawyers, whatever, will have worked out the details, yeah?

Deas says, "The money is there"... so he must know where it is, yeah?

It's Showtime financing it, of course the money is there.

It's ludicrous to say that neither he nor Haymon have the time to meet up with Hearn and give him an outline of those details, and tell him where the money is, or where it would come from.

And then Hearn can say, wow, I didn't realize you were able to get so much money raised. I never actually agreed to 50 though, so now that you've revealed all of your cards, I'm actually going to need 60.

Making fights is what Haymon and Deas do for a living. It's their business, their vocation, their job to talk to guys like Hearn. And He's practically standing outside their office, asking to talk to them about making the biggest fight in world boxing!

Deas is a trainer for a living. Haymon & Finkel are the ones making fights. It's their job to negotiate with guys like Hearn and part of negotiating a deal this large is getting a mutual understanding on the money before moving on to anything else. This is how pretty much all the big fights have always been negotiated.

Use some common sense. AJ is the biggest cash cow in the sport. Wilder is the most dangerous puncher. If you were Hearn, would it make any sense to rush AJ into a Wilder fight? Of course not. Even if you believe AJ would win (and maybe he would), it still makes zero business sense to rush the biggest cash cow into the ring with the biggest puncher.

So knowing that, of course Hearn is going to come up with a million excuses. As he should. That's his job.

[peakbay]

One side want to sit down and workout the details and one side doesn't!! it's as simple as that. So stfu and stop trying to spin things its boring

[soul_survivor]

Finkel keeps stating he wants AJ to accept...yet AJ has accepted publicly via one of the biggest social media apps on the planet.

So what is actually happening?

[Robbie Barrett]

They want Hearn to accept the 50mil offer not say they interested before sitting down and going over details how much would make etc, if Hearn was to see numbers and want more than what his guy was one said he would take fight for the 50mil

They put projected numbers on contracts do they? GTFOH silly ****.

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And Hearn is too smart to be tricked into saying he agrees to something that might come back to bite him in the arse when he actually sees it and realises ... Hey ... that's not what I thought I was agreeing to ...

That's not how it works though. Hearn isn't actually agreeing to anything other than for the purposes of the negotiating process, he's acknowledging that the money portion of the negotiation has been agreed to in principle so they can move on to other aspects of the deal. Nothing is binding. They can't hold him to anything. There's no way to trick him. It's just a question of entering into the negotiation in good faith and both sides agreeing on a basic framework for the most important aspect before getting into the nitty gritty to see if they can get a deal done.

[Illmatic94]

why can't they sit at the table and see the whats actually in the contract first before saying yes who blindly agrees to say to something really big like this? I don't care who hymon or shirley are or their history in the sport. you got to to show me the goods but they won't.

Isn't that what Hearn requested from Wilder? to blindly agree to a $12.5 million dollar flat fee with ZERO details and no contract?

This contract has all the major sticking points revealed already.

1. AJ gets a MINIMUM $50 million USDOLLARS (£36million POUNDS)

2. WILDER selects the venue.

3. Fight takes place at the end of 2018.

Do you agree? YES or NO.

Haymon/Finkel's offer is more professional and mature than "$12.5 million flat, take it or leave it, zero details and a 48hr deadline."