Comments Thread For: Hearn To Team Wilder: Is a Contract & Meeting Too Much To Ask?

[The plunger man]

Bro, you are the 1st person confirming where the fight was going to be situated for Eddie's offer. What was sent to Wilder did not have the venue or date. That has been confirmed by multiple reputable sources already.

On your 2nd point, Wilder's fights may not generate the money but Wilder's promoter has executed events generated .5 billion dollars twice at least. Al Haymon also has a reputation to protect. So, let's stop making excuses for Eddie asking where the money will be coming from. Even one of the English commentators stated very clearly that Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel are good with their words when it comes to money. Eddie should not be asking where the money is coming from. That's not his business - especially with the elite level of people (Al & Shelly) he is dealing with who have been in the business probably while Eddie was in diapers.

With all due respect, I disagree on #3. The ask from Wilder's team is confirm with a clear YES or NO from AJ that he (i.e. AJ) accepts what he requested verbally in an interview. If it is a YES, then we show you what we have - the funds, location and other intricacies. If you cannot confirm, no need to waste our time. Is AJ really a man of his words? That's the check here. How about ask Eddie to call their bluff and just say YES.

Is Eddie that full of himself not to just send back a "YES - we accept the offer (NOT the contract), show me the details." Eddie's ego is ten times taller than he is for a guy who has achieved little compared to Al and Shelly. Eddie's success is mostly based on AJ. Take him out and Eddie is done. He has made quite a lot of enemies in the business by his nasty way of talking - putting his colleagues and folks down in the media, etc. What goes around comes around.

you are talking out your ass ....why on earth would eddie hearn agree to something that has no substance or merit....this is solely based on facts of what wilder has produced in the past, no ppv and and not a household name.
Simple all finkle and haymon had to do was sit down with hearn and show him hard facts about this offer but guess what they cancelled the meeting lol
And why exactly did they do that ? I will tell you why because wilder cannot generate the $50 million guarantee to joshua in the states....yeah it might do a 100 million if they are realy fortunate but then yiu take half of that to the cable providers which leaves $50 million for showtime and paying out for the whole event....so even with that money they cannot guarantee $50 million to joshua.
That means deontay wilder fights for free ? Have some f@cking brains for f@ck sake

[Boksfan]

There are major differences which you are ignoring here.

1. The fight was going to be at Wembley in September. Wilder never asked for a contract, he never even replied even though Eddie put a 10 day expiration on the offer. Eddie asked for details of the 50m offer the same day. It was an opening offer, he expected negotiation.

2. Nobody asked to see proof of the 12.5m because nobody got back to Eddie. Everybody knows Joshua fights make enough to pay that money. Everybody knows Wilder fights don't generate enough to pay a man a guaranteed 50m. That's why they want proof of funds.

3. It is quite normal to ask for details before agreeing to ANYTHING. If they agree to the money and disagree to everything else because it might be completely unreasonable or unrealistic then Team Wilder have another PR play. In any case, Hearn and AJ have already indicated they are happy with the amount of money. That's already in the public domain.

The simple fact is that there are more factors at play than the money, that's how it is and that's how it's always been. That's why Hearn has attempted to get on the same page as Team Wilder by having meetings but they don't want it.

What exactly are they protecting? Their business model? It's no secret how they generate money for big fights.

Your post is too easy to understand for a normal person. Expect hate from trolls.

[The plunger man]

Why won’t Eddie state that he accepts the deal ? Team wilder said once he accepts the offer they will meet him with the contract.

because joshua is proven ppv draw over here and sells 90k stadiums out and wilder was offered 12.5 million based on that.
Wilder on the other hand has never sold a PPV, fights in 7k arenas and the American general public has no idea who he is.
So as i said look at the facts not fiction

[Patsfan bri]

Not agreeing to something when you don't know the details is basic common sense. Americans seem to lack it.

Ummm according to fast Eddie all he said was we will take 50 million and the offer is there . So what’s the problem? Eddie didn’t ask for anything else just the money. Can’t he accept the offer and them te wilder will meet with him like they said ? And Robbie answer without insulting. I’m open to logic . One more thing , you know the funds come from the liv gate, networks, PPV , sponsors, etc,

[Patsfan bri]

because joshua is proven ppv draw over here and sells 90k stadiums out and wilder was offered 12.5 million based on that.
Wilder on the other hand has never sold a PPV, fights in 7k arenas and the American general public has no idea who he is.
So as i said look at the facts not fiction

isn’t 50 million 50 million no matter where they fight ? It doesn’t matter if they fight Hong Kong as long as AJ can make 50 mil.

[The plunger man]

isn’t 50 million 50 million no matter where they fight ? It doesn’t matter if they fight Hong Kong as long as AJ can make 50 mil.

yeah your right $50 million is $50 million but if its made up mostly by what joshua brings to the table then joshua has the right to say when and where yes ? if the $50 million is made up of what wilder brings the table then thats up to joshua if decides to fight in there backyard but he cartainly has to see proof of those promised funds not made up of joshuas takings lol

[Robbie Barrett]

Ummm according to fast Eddie all he said was we will take 50 million and the offer is there . So what’s the problem? Eddie didn’t ask for anything else just the money. Can’t he accept the offer and them te wilder will meet with him like they said ? And Robbie answer without insulting. I’m open to logic . One more thing , you know the funds come from the liv gate, networks, PPV , sponsors, etc,

The problem is if Hearn agrees and they ask for ridiculous crap in the contract after it will look bad on Joshua/Hearn. Wilder can run around claiming they ducked.

What's wrong with showing them the details if it's a legit offer with nothing to hide?

If the funds come from the gate/PPV then it's not a guarantee. Joshua said 50 mil UPFRONT.

This is a PR stunt. They were hoping Hearn would turn it down and it's backfired. Hearn wants to see the offer, he's interested. Wilders team have nothing to offer.

[The plunger man]

Not agreeing to something when you don't know the details is basic common sense. Americans seem to lack it.

rare as rocking horse **** m8

[Patsfan bri]

yeah your right $50 million is $50 million but if its made up mostly by what joshua brings to the table then joshua has the right to say when and where yes ? if the $50 million is made up of what wilder brings the table then thats up to joshua if decides to fight in there backyard but he cartainly has to see proof of those promised funds not made up of joshuas takings lol

Eddie’s is the one who said he wants 50 million he didn’t state other stipulations when he said he wanted the 50. You know the funds come from the liv gate , PPV, networks, sponsors and so on correct ? I mean think about it , look how many fighters Al Haymon represents. If he didn’t pay AJ his career would be over .

[Ake-Dawg]

The problem is if Hearn agrees and they ask for ridiculous crap in the contract after it will look bad on Joshua/Hearn. Wilder can run around claiming they ducked.

What's wrong with showing them the details if it's a legit offer with nothing to hide?

If the funds come from the gate/PPV then it's not a guarantee. Joshua said 50 mil UPFRONT.

This is a PR stunt. They were hoping Hearn would turn it down and it's backfired. Hearn wants to see the offer, he's interested. Wilders team have nothing to offer.

If the contract details are ridiculous, how does Hearn look bad? Wouldn't that make Team Wilder look bad? And let's note, Hearn hasn't accepted the financial terms. He said he was interested in the offer. That's like a female saying she interested in you but not saying yes to the date.