I think a lot of people owe Canelo an apology

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  • minemax
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    #21
    I guess so, yes.

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    • ADP02
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      #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Do you think you know more about this than Victor Conte?
      “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use (Floyd Mayweather) is clearly against the rules. … It’s very su****ious to me."

      Victor Conte
      Ooops ........

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      • McNulty
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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        With his hair sample has come up negative it's clear that he wasn't doping or using clen as a masking agent for something worse.

        The results are consistent with eating tainted meat.

        The critics should now clear his name with the same publicity with which they besmirched it.
        Neither I nor anyone here knows the ins and outs of hair sample testing. I would like to see the test results.

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        • 4truth
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          #24
          Sorry I made plans to watch you fight before you failed your PED tests.

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          • Santa_
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            #25
            Originally posted by -NAV-
            How do we know he didn’t eat the tainted meat for the clen?

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            • TheCell8
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              #26
              Hair Tests are unreliable, per Ian Kidd:

              The hair test

              There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.

              The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.

              That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.

              Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:

              The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.

              Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.

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              • Elroy The Great
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                #27
                theyd rather slit their limp wrists, shove m80s up their glory holes and drink sulfuric acid before apologizing

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                • Elroy The Great
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheCell8
                  Hair Tests are unreliable, per Ian Kidd:
                  how do they demand a test and then cry about it when the tests come back clean ?!?!?!

                  i guarantee you, if he failed the hair test, there would 1000 more threads demanding his death !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • BattlingNelson
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    With his hair sample has come up negative it's clear that he wasn't doping or using clen as a masking agent for something worse.

                    The results are consistent with eating tainted meat.

                    The critics should now clear his name with the same publicity with which they besmirched it.
                    1: He tested positive.
                    2: It’s the athletes responsibility
                    3: The hair test result is not inconsistent with the****utic use.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #30
                      Agreed. Lots of Canelo haters looking silly right now, but any Canelo critic that wants to make up for their trash talking should apologize and move on. Let the trolling anti-Canelo fans look silly by themselves, don't join them.

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