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  • Kiowhatta
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    #111
    I will never understand the IBF's behaviour. It's like they want to force the belt out of GGG's hands, in a similar way to Crawford.
    They removed same day weigh-ins, which was a good thing for the sport.

    Although it's asking a lot, I'm pushing for GGG to fight Vanes, then Sergey, then Canelo, take a break and have a crack at Saunders. He always has been a busy fighter, but since this Canelo saga started two years ago, he hasn't fought as much as he should and it shows in his temperament.
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      #112
      Originally posted by Mammoth
      I would Imagine the Saunders fight means much less without the IBF.
      It almost means nothing without that IBF. It'd do wonders for the younger Saunders. Since Gennady is still the biggest name name at middleweight, title, and accomplishment wise.

      WAit,I take that back. He'd still have the WBC and WBA belts. It would still be a unification match.

      For some reason, I thought you meant he'd have no belts. My bad.

      But yeah, it'd still be a big fight even if it isn't for undisputed.

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      • Street15
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        #113
        Originally posted by Kiowhatta
        I will never understand the IBF's behaviour. It's like they want to force the belt out of GGG's hands, in a similar way to Crawford.
        They removed same day weigh-ins, which was a good thing for the sport.

        Although it's asking a lot, I;m pushing for GGG to fight Vanes, the Sergey, then Canelo, take a break and have a crack at Saunders. He always has been a busy fighter, but since this Canelo saga started two years ago, he hasn't fought as much as he should and it shows in his temperament.
        To be fair, the IBF is just carrying out their duty to serve the mandatory. They've always been the strictest sanctioning body. They're just doing what's right.

        When you own so many belts, this is what happens. You get pulled in so many directions. This is why the BIGGER fighters (floyd, pac, canelo, even cotto) didn't care to unify as much. They could make money no matter what, people will clamor to fight them, and they moved on their own clock.

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        • Kiowhatta
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          #114
          Originally posted by Street15
          He'd still have the WBC and WBA belts. It would still be a unification match.

          But yeah, it'd still be a big fight even if it isn't for undisputed.
          It may have to be. It seems the sanctioning bodies (especially the IBF are doing as much as they can to de-rail an undisputed situation. Remember what they did to Bud Crawford? that was criminal.

          I think most fans will pay Golovkin his dues if he fights Saunders and beats him, with or without the IBF*^kwits.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Jacobs and Derevyanchenko are in the same camp in Brooklyn (Rozier as the lead, with Stark as the #2 for Jacobs, with the flip for Derevyanchenko I think).

            Eddie Hearn may want one thing, but whether Jacobs is on board with the move is another thing.
            He's on board

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              #116
              Originally posted by Street15
              It almost means nothing without that IBF. It'd do wonders for the younger Saunders. Since Gennady is still the biggest name name at middleweight, title, and accomplishment wise.

              WAit,I take that back. He'd still have the WBC and WBA belts. It would still be a unification match.

              For some reason, I thought you meant he'd have no belts. My bad.

              But yeah, it'd still be a big fight even if it isn't for undisputed.
              It would mean much less without the IBF.

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                #117
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                1) they did to Jacobs EXACTLY what they did to Saunders..... they low-balled him with "Quillin money", and then ran off to fight a NO-HOPER..... with NO counter-offer

                2) the WBA ordered that fight..... otherwsie, Jacobs would still be waiting

                3) Team Bullshht did everything they could to kill that fight, including calling for an early purse-bid knowing that Jacobs would refuse 25%..... that fight only got signed well-after the 11th hour, and only because the media started making it obvious that Team Bullshht were trying to kill the fight

                that took MONTHS, the fight had to be deferred at least once, causing Golovkin to miss a fight date/payday..... which makes the delay for peanuts, look pretty absurd

                Golovkin literally had to be dragged kicking and screaming
                Lol dude what world do you live in? Seriously where do you get your news from? Is that the garbage that Dante puts out on DBN. Do your own research man, you just look foolish!

                Jacobs never really wanted that fight until it was mandated. He never pressed for it and I think only gave in because his fans were giving him a hard time. Jacobs absolutely delayed the fight. He wanted more money, among other terms, than the recognized split of 75/25. GGG even gave him more to make the fight, didn't have to but did.

                Just wake up bro! You are embarrassing yourself!!

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                  Fool bjs gets injured every camp he enters fight gets pushed back he would of delayed a ggg fight about 4-5 times he a waste of time

                  Golovkin has ducked everyone who could possibly be regarded as a threat, except for Canelo..... no wait, he ducked him at 155 lol

                  which is why, Golovkin could not make a meaningful fight if his life depended on it

                  keep dreaming, hoping, praying, lol

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    Derev has already refused step-aside money..... he wants his shot

                    Dibella also stated, that they will not accept step-aside money
                    Dude, again, logic bro. I'm trying to help you out! He refused step-aside money for VANES, which makes no money. He could make more in step-aside money for the GGG Canelo fight than in actually fighting GGG.

                    And I don't know if Dibella even said that, but if he did, that's a good way to negotiate the price up for your client. He is absolutely going to take the step-aside money for GGG Canelo. Then he will get his shot in about a year anyway. Win win for him. This has all already been worked out I'm sure.

                    You are getting worked up over this for nothing man.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      It would mean much less without the IBF.
                      Yeah. But, it's still the 2nd biggest fight to be made in the division.

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