So Wilder's Team Didn't Meet With Hearn?

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  • Sid-Knee
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    #71
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    as others have mentioned...no one said AJ had to sign anything...he had to agree in principle

    all of those details you listed would be worked out in a sit down with hearn...if he would agree to the principles that they said he needed to agree too

    but hearn is backpeddling and scrambling and saying anything else he can think of except "yeah thats great were ready to hammer out the details now"

    instead hes calling the offer fake and questioning the money

    you dont question where al gets his money from...hes THEEEE power player in boxing

    hearn never thought theyd be able to put together that kind of deal...he thought he could walk all over them and bully and insult them....and he got slapped across the face by their collective ****.....now dont know what to do except call the offer fake
    Whether Hearn agrees in principle or not you don't refuse to sit down and discuss the fight. Pretending otherwise is nothing short of ******. Sort yourself out will you. You're looking sillier by the post.

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    • youbeight
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      #72
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      I see it doing no more than 100,000 on American PPV because of the time it would be on, plus neither AJ/Wilder are stars in America. Getting people to buy the fight would have been a struggle with it being on Showtime and them not really being good at promoting a fight. They're nowhere near to what HBO are capable of.

      Ward was doing good numbers on basic cable until he fought Kovalev on PPV. And you know what happened there. It flopped. I see the same thing with Wilder/AJ.
      I think the time of it is why it does 200-250k. prime time can be higher but nowhere above 500k. getting ppl to buy fights is hard but undisputed hw championship of the world especially at a time where SHO budget is 3x HBO and they've sat on more than $30mill surplus they made from mayweather vs mc Gregor since neither had exclusive deals with them. SHO also has been spending very friendly prices on cards to retain and increase their viewership and allowed audience to stream from their app for free and watch fights on Facebook. thats 4x the effort HBO has been able to put into their programming. HBO makes billions and shrinks their boxing budget to where if you're not a promoter they like or a fighter their tied to, they won't give you more than 1mill for the whole card. ward vs kov consensus was no way should it be ppv. wilder vs Joshua is diff imo because both have been able to attain more casual attention than ward and Kovalev.

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      • Kezzer
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        #73
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        as others have mentioned...no one said AJ had to sign anything...he had to agree in principle
        I know your being selective but if you look at wilders post he made the offer you will see Joshua accepted within 15 minutes. Your principle is already there.

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        • Curt Henning
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          #74
          Originally posted by Kezzer
          I know your being selective but if you look at wilders post he made the offer you will see Joshua accepted within 15 minutes. Your principle is already there.
          joshua said "lets roll" on twitter

          but hearn didnt say anything of that sort...hearn started talking about not believing the money is real...that the offer was a stunt and this and that.....he didnt say "ok that sounds really great...thats what we want for money...were ok with it being in vegas or you picking the spot...lets finalize this"

          he didnt...he started talking about how hes concerned for wilder that he might get shortchanged by his own people....and that the money doesnt add up or make sense....and a bunch of nonsense....

          AJ saying "lets roll" on twitter isnt them agreeing in principle to the two major points presented by wilders team

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          • Kezzer
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            #75
            If you want to play their games then They only asked for joshuas approval which he gave. Hearn is doing his job which is to question the details. If a deal sounds too good to be true it usually is.

            More to the point, if it was a serious offer why the need to come public and not deal with it behind closed doors? They were set to meet anyway (which was delayed once before the offer, again from Thursday to Friday and then eventually cancelled by Wilder’s team).

            Actions speak louder than words I’m afraid and a bit like wilders resume, there is no evidence to support their claims

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