So Wilder's Team Didn't Meet With Hearn?

[FrankieBruno]

Shelly should attend the meeting, he has let Hearn get to him

A meeting is never non-productive. What is Shellys problem? Hearn is in town, he agreed to meet and then decided to cancel at the last minute.

Very unprofessional

Sit down like men, talk, iron out all the details and present the offer to your clients.

[Sid-Knee]

you would question al haymons financing? really?

why?

No, but I would question them playing games and not wanting to sit down with Hearn to discuss things. But they're not interested.

It's a bogus PR move from Wilder and his side. If you can't see it then there's nothing that can be done for you.

Wilder and his side look ****** after what has transpired. And so do his fans. Like you.

[Sid-Knee]

Shelly should attend the meeting, he has let Hearn get to him

A meeting is never non-productive. What is Shellys problem? Hearn is in town, he agreed to meet and then decided to cancel at the last minute.

Very unprofessional

Oh, have you stopped slagging Hearn off now Khan has signed to him? Hahahaha.

[Kezzer]

you would question al haymons financing? really?

why?

Of course I would. Anyone can offer something but if they don’t have a business case around it I know it won’t work. In a business environment I would choose options which weren’t the most financially appealing at times because I have more confidence in their ability to deliver the business model they have created.

That is no different here. At the moment it’s words. It’s worse than that, it’s words without any substance. I mean, in this scenario cash is a factor but Joshua has other key things he is bothered about ..

1) where will fight be
2) size of ring
3) referee
4) judges
5) marketing commitments
6) impact of current contractual deals he has (sky sports, various sponsorship deals)
7) when will he fight be
8) who enters ring first
9) what will undercard be (this is a factor for Joshua as proven by his previous fights involvement)
10) what are the conditions of the payment. For instance if wilder pulls out injured what happens?

Lots other other much mallet info aswell

[Vinnykin]

you would question al haymons financing? really?

why?

Why would you hand over the biggest star in world boxing, with 3 world titles and the #1 in the division to another team with no guarantee of money?

Forget about the sponsors, his image rights, his promotional obligations etc etc

You are arguing a NOTHING offer so far, it's mental!

Your argument is "Haymon is rich, they shouldn't even check the details".... never mind AJ is the A-side and the draw, without him, Wilder and Haymon have no draw!

Seriously, are you ******? Any rational person would ask for a meeting to discuss the details (Hearn has), he's interested, show him the details and it's on.

[FrankieBruno]

Oh, have you stopped slagging Hearn off now Khan has signed to him? Hahahaha.

Nope. I am rooting for Wilder to do Jousha

Hearn is a ****, but Wilder is being led by clowns.

I really hope this 50 million offer is true so Jousha is forced to take the fight, but i am starting to think it is a publicity stunt because Shelly has no interest in sitting down and making the biggest fight of his lifetime

If they can't sit in a room and talk, then nothing will ever be achieved

[youbeight]

If Wilder and AJ fought in the UK with the American market doing PPV, I don't see it breaking 100,000 buys.

If Wilder liked the offer from Hearn, i'm sure he could have sat down and talked about him maybe getting most of the American PPV. I'm sure Hearn would have went for that considering he's really only interested in the British PPV market where most of the money would have came from.

why don't you see it breaking 100k buys? most fighters when switching their platform to ppv can retain 10% of their regular audience. not to mention this fight has legs that are getting casuals into it, when I went to Ortiz fight, it was the second highest attendance and I was in a section full of Brits who came to see it (most of them rooting for Ortiz) they also knew dirrell but nothing about uzcategui so I know it was a fight invested to see wilder vs ortiz. Hearn knows uk ppv is a lock, he also knows he can raise ticket prices in wembly bc their 90k sell out was only a 8mill live gate. thats an average of 90pounds per seat. hearn is undervaluing this fight, clear as day. he may do it bc he can lock Joshua and wilder into fixed deals while match room can take a large % of the top.

[Vinnykin]

haymons track record speaks for itself...anyone asking to see als money is a complete delusional lunatic

so thats about what you are

So Hearn should sign AJ over to Haymon on nothing more than an E-mail from Wilder? hahahahahahaha

You're delusional.

This is my last reply to you, thanks for the laughs.

[Curt Henning]

Of course I would. Anyone can offer something but if they don’t have a business case around it I know it won’t work. In a business environment I would choose options which weren’t the most financially appealing at times because I have more confidence in their ability to deliver the business model they have created.

That is no different here. At the moment it’s words. It’s worse than that, it’s words without any substance. I mean, in this scenario cash is a factor but Joshua has other key things he is bothered about ..

1) where will fight be
2) size of ring
3) referee
4) judges
5) marketing commitments
6) impact of current contractual deals he has (sky sports, various sponsorship deals)
7) when will he fight be
8) who enters ring first
9) what will undercard be (this is a factor for Joshua as proven by his previous fights involvement)
10) what are the conditions of the payment. For instance if wilder pulls out injured what happens?

Lots other other much mallet info aswell

as others have mentioned...no one said AJ had to sign anything...he had to agree in principle

all of those details you listed would be worked out in a sit down with hearn...if he would agree to the principles that they said he needed to agree too

but hearn is backpeddling and scrambling and saying anything else he can think of except "yeah thats great were ready to hammer out the details now"

instead hes calling the offer fake and questioning the money

you dont question where al gets his money from...hes THEEEE power player in boxing

hearn never thought theyd be able to put together that kind of deal...he thought he could walk all over them and bully and insult them....and he got slapped across the face by their collective ****.....now dont know what to do except call the offer fake

[Sid-Knee]

why don't you see it breaking 100k buys? most fighters when switching their platform to ppv can retain 10% of their regular audience. not to mention this fight has legs that are getting casuals into it, when I went to Ortiz fight, it was the second highest attendance and I was in a section full of Brits who came to see it (most of them rooting for Ortiz) they also knew dirrell but nothing about uzcategui so I know it was a fight invested to see wilder vs ortiz. Hearn knows uk ppv is a lock, he also knows he can raise ticket prices in wembly bc their 90k sell out was only a 8mill live gate. thats an average of 90pounds per seat. hearn is undervaluing this fight, clear as day. he may do it bc he can lock Joshua and wilder into fixed deals while match room can take a large % of the top.

I see it doing no more than 100,000 on American PPV because of the time it would be on, plus neither AJ/Wilder are stars in America. Getting people to buy the fight would have been a struggle with it being on Showtime and them not really being good at promoting a fight. They're nowhere near to what HBO are capable of.

Ward was doing good numbers on basic cable until he fought Kovalev on PPV. And you know what happened there. It flopped. I see the same thing with Wilder/AJ.