Why do people think $50m

[Jubei]

For a guy whose biggest purse is $2 Million, who hasnt sold a single PPV, who has average TV ratings, who has a very small fanbase, who hasnt sold a single PPV? Yeah sure, buddy.

[Boksfan]

50 million is nothing, Andre Ward, the biggest US boxing star is paid 100 million dollars a fight, right?

[R_Walken]

I got you, my bad. Fair point.

It does seem win win for Hearn. Either Joshua gets a career high payday & Hearn sees what they figured out that he didn't & he can use that next time out with Joshua or Joshua gets his biggest payday & the promoter loses money overall by overpaying Joshua. Either way it a W for Joshua & Hearn one would think.

It’s not a win for Hearn if they accept that offer just a W for Joshua

He will have no control of the event, and I’m assuming just making a flat fee off AJs purse

He wouldn’t be involved in choosing the location/venue , he wouldn’t control the tickets and probably won’t have the ability to double dip with Stub hub and make however many more millions that wouldn’t be added in to the pie and paid to the fighters. I’m assuming wouldn’t have control in negotiating the international Rights and probably personally loses out on millions

And to top it off it’d be a big blow to his ego that in the biggest HW fight in at least 15-20 years he’ll have thena-side fighter but won’t really be needed or have any control and be playing second fiddle to dibella / Finkell/ Haymon

[bambam182]

Why do people think $50 mil is a lot of money? FFS...they are paying Katy Perry $25 mil to judge American idol. NBA and NFL players are on multi million dollar contracts. It's normal in the U.S to earn this type of money when you are at the pinnacle of your game. Bill Gates could cover this out of his petty cash draw and write it off his tax bill. You are a small fish in a small pond Eddie.

really, katy perry gets that in one night? all those other athletes get that in one game? idiot. ducking boy.

[Eff Pandas]

It’s not a win for Hearn if they accept that offer just a W for Joshua

He will have no control of the event, and I’m assuming just making a flat fee off AJs purse

He wouldn’t be involved in choosing the location/venue , he wouldn’t control the tickets and probably won’t have the ability to double dip with Stub hub and make however many more millions that wouldn’t be added in to the pie and paid to the fighters. I’m assuming wouldn’t have control in negotiating the international Rights and probably personally loses out on millions

And to top it off it’d be a big blow to his ego that in the biggest HW fight in at least 15-20 years he’ll have thena-side fighter but won’t really be needed or have any control and be playing second fiddle to dibella / Finkell/ Haymon

So what you're saying is Hearn doesn't reallllllly want the other side of a Joshua fight to make him offers lol?

I'd think with the money here he'd make out alright & I'd assume he's still getting UK PPV money & int'l money & other stuff like that as Joshua's rep in all this, but I don't know that for a fact.

But yea I'm sure being the lead promoter is insuring you are making more money than the secondary promoter(s)

Randomly it'd be curious to see what a promoters risk/reward looks like when he's the lead promoter vs secondary promoter. We hear boxers paydays all day. I'd love to know what the promoters are taking in or losing in unsuccessful events.

[Rip Chudd]

It’s not a win for Hearn if they accept that offer just a W for Joshua

He will have no control of the event, and I’m assuming just making a flat fee off AJs purse

He wouldn’t be involved in choosing the location/venue , he wouldn’t control the tickets and probably won’t have the ability to double dip with Stub hub and make however many more millions that wouldn’t be added in to the pie and paid to the fighters. I’m assuming wouldn’t have control in negotiating the international Rights and probably personally loses out on millions

And to top it off it’d be a big blow to his ego that in the biggest HW fight in at least 15-20 years he’ll have thena-side fighter but won’t really be needed or have any control and be playing second fiddle to dibella / Finkell/ Haymon

I was saying the same thing earlier today. I think they have the money but they want Joshua to say he agrees to take the 50 mil so if the fight doesn't happen they can blame Hearn cause his fighter said he'd take it. Then once AJ accepts they let him know that they'll be the ones handling everything involved with the fight, especially since they are the ones paying his fighter 50 mil. I doubt Hearn will let that happen, but that's the play I think they are going with.

[R_Walken]

So what you're saying is Hearn doesn't reallllllly want the other side of a Joshua fight to make him offers lol?

I'd think with the money here he'd make out alright & I'd assume he's still getting UK PPV money & int'l money & other stuff like that as Joshua's rep in all this, but I don't know that for a fact.

But yea I'm sure being the lead promoter is insuring you are making more money than the secondary promoter(s)

Randomly it'd be curious to see what a promoters risk/reward looks like when he's the lead promoter vs secondary promoter. We hear boxers paydays all day. I'd love to know what the promoters are taking in or losing in unsuccessful events.

Yeah that’s exactly what I’m saying that Hearn doesn’t want Haymon / Finkell controlling the fight

He probably loses out on millions just from the unreported double dipping Stub Hub scheme

This is just my know nothing uneducated opinion but if AJ accepts and Wilders team controll the purses they basically controll all the revenue streams that the fight generates why leave it up to Hearn they take it all in and break off whatever fee or % they agreed upon to AJ /Hearn and Hearn takes a cut( obviously he’d be getting paid ) . Why would he get control the UK PPV or international Rights or any other revenue stream? He won’t be the one cutting the cheque

He’s essentially useless and has no say in anything with the fight and to add insult his fighters the a-side and will be the one generating most of the $

It’d be like May / PAC when Arum had to play the background and complained how he was left out of almost everything to do with the fight and was furious that he didn’t even get any tickets untill the last minute while Mayweather / Haymon & co were probably flipping them for untold millions going directly into their pockets that Arum had
No claim to because it was off the books

Again with my know nothing uneducated opinion but from what I’ve seen / read I don’t think the secondary promoter usually doesn’t take much of a risk they usually agree on their fee and only have to break off what they pay their fighter the lead promoter would be the one taking the risk

But it probably be best to get the opinion of someone like OnePunch who actually has experience and knew what the f.uck they were talking about

I was saying the same thing earlier today. I think they have the money but they want Joshua to say he agrees to take the 50 mil so if the fight doesn't happen they can blame Hearn cause his fighter said he'd take it. Then once AJ accepts they let him know that they'll be the ones handling everything involved with the fight, especially since they are the ones paying his fighter 50 mil. I doubt Hearn will let that happen, but that's the play I think they are going with.

Agree

This offer was a pure power play by Haymon / Finkell to stick it to Hearn

They sat back and let Hearn talk sh.it towards them , lie to the public try to delay the fight and offer what most consider a BS initiall offer he could do all that because AJs the a-side

Then AJ opened his mouth and said he’d accept 50 mil no questions asked ( probably half jokingly and trying to be slick ) Wilders team was that as a opportunity to offer what he asked for and potentially more

You get to f.uck over Hearn by having him relinquish control over the biggest HW fight in years even though he has the a-side maybe create tension and animosity between AJ / HeRn because hearn couldn’t / can’t guarantee anywhere near that amount and if they don’t take the offer paint them in a bad light and have most boxing fans / media wondering why AJ wouldn’t accept a offer he publicly stated he’d take in a heartbeat.l and which would be the highest HW guarantee ever.

Great chess move by Wilders team

[DuckAdonis]

Its about 36 million pounds right ?

Joshua offered wilder 12.5 million pounds...

That means wilder would have got 1/3 of the money Joshua gets now

[Eff Pandas]

This offer was a pure power play by Haymon / Finkell to stick it to Hearn

They sat back and let Hearn talk sh.it towards them , lie to the public try to delay the fight and offer what most consider a BS initiall offer he could do all that because AJs the a-side

Then AJ opened his mouth and said he’d accept 50 mil no questions asked ( probably half jokingly and trying to be slick ) Wilders team was that as a opportunity to offer what he asked for and potentially more

You get to f.uck over Hearn by having him relinquish control over the biggest HW fight in years even though he has the a-side maybe create tension and animosity between AJ / HeRn because hearn couldn’t / can’t guarantee anywhere near that amount and if they don’t take the offer paint them in a bad light and have most boxing fans / media wondering why AJ wouldn’t accept a offer he publicly stated he’d take in a heartbeat.l and which would be the highest HW guarantee ever.

Great chess move by Wilders team

This is interesting & I agree a lot of it makes sense/could be the play.