Comments Thread For: Hearn: Unless $50M Offer is Bluff, Wilder's Team Must Meet Me!

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  • AussieStu
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    #161
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Just because you know how contract law works doesn't mean you know how boxing negotiations typically go down. This is standard procedure all the time. You agree on the money and then try to hammer out the details to get a fight done. Agreeing on the money binds you to nothing. Fights fall apart over the details all the time.

    Hearn didn't have to publicly accept anything. All he had to do was email Finkel and say, "if the rest of the terms are negotiated to mutual satisfaction, we would agree with the financial framework you've offered." Then you meet to try to hammer out a deal. But Finkel and Haymon are not going to waste their time meeting with Hearn only for Hearn to say, "well I never agreed to 50, I actually need 60."
    Why would it be a waste of time to attend a meeting they’d already agreed to attend? Surely Finkel and Haymon would at least know where they stand and could come out of the meeting and say “well we offered £50m, showed them the letter of guarantee from whatever source and Hearn still said no because he’s ducking.” Or perhaps it may even turn into a negotiation. Shock horror. Or perhaps Hearn or Haymon could just pick up the phone and call the other.

    Thinking more and more that neither side wants this fight next and they are giving it the marination treatment. Probably laughing at all of us wasting our time debating crap none of us re involved in.

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    • Zoffeler
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      #162

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      • Holler
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        #163
        Originally posted by Redgloveman
        Thanks

        I think that whilst people are waiting for fights they enjoy the machismo circus of little victories here and there about who is "ducking" who... before either fighter even realistically has a chance to duck the other.

        Months ago when Joshua was signed to fight Parker, the Wilder side was going crazy about how Joshua was terrified, ducking, a clown. etc. etc.

        A few days ago, when the Wilder side had been sent Hearn's offer and seemed to go quiet the AJ side went nuts over how Wilder was looking to sidestep the fight and didn't really want it.

        Now we've got both sides shouting at each other...

        it's not exactly edifying but it's fun in a perverse kind of way.
        Yes I've quite enjoyed panto season, but it's become a bit wearing, in part because this is such a polarised debate. There's no room for nuance or shades of grey, just cartoonish heroes and villains. I think both sides are guilty in this. Hearn and Finkel have each sent offers they know will never result in a deal.

        Now I'm bored with it. Ultimately this stuff is a sideshow. Bring on an actual fight and a chance for the boxers to prove a point in the ring.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #164
          Originally posted by TheBigLug
          Well that's what i thought too. It's not like they're asking him to sign a contract before telling them the terms, which would be in the contract before signing anyway. or are they?

          All i've heard is they asked them to agree to accepting 50m before sitting down. If there's no contract involved at this stage, Why not just agree? then just don't sign it if they're not happy once they say they accept and enter talks.
          All these double standard wilder fan boys. Why were they running away from the meeting.
          I can't believe you are these dumb.
          Wilder went on social media to make a $50m proposal to call out AJ, did you see AJ's response? "let's roll" . What does that tell you?
          Now hearn wants to meet those lunatics, there are running away, is that how people serious to make fight act?

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #165
            All these double standard wilder fan boys everywhere. Why were they running away from the meeting.
            Wilder went on social media to make a $50m proposal to call out AJ, did you see AJ's response? "let's roll" . What does that tell you?
            Now hearn wants to meet those lunatics, there are running away, is that how people serious to make fight act?

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            • McNulty
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              #166
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Just because you know how contract law works doesn't mean you know how boxing negotiations typically go down. This is standard procedure all the time. You agree on the money and then try to hammer out the details to get a fight done. Agreeing on the money binds you to nothing. Fights fall apart over the details all the time.

              Hearn didn't have to publicly accept anything. All he had to do was email Finkel and say, "if the rest of the terms are negotiated to mutual satisfaction, we would agree with the financial framework you've offered." Then you meet to try to hammer out a deal. But Finkel and Haymon are not going to waste their time meeting with Hearn only for Hearn to say, "well I never agreed to 50, I actually need 60."
              Working overtime on this I see lol. Beat it into them man.

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              • Chrismart
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                #167
                Originally posted by naijad
                i don’t understand, surely meeting to discuss the finer details of the deal is a must in order to make the fight happen. Suddenly actually meeting is a bad thing/duck move??..... I thought that’s how fights got made. You wilder fans will take up the most ridiculous positions to defend him.
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                hearn travelling 3k+ miles to the states shows how serious he and his team are, the bottom line is they have no reason to avoid the fight. Heck, hearn was talking about flying over and meeting wilder's team last week, well before this $50 million offer. It's a great sign, all wilder's team have to do is turn up.
                :anyword:
                .......

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                • Jimmy gold
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                  #168
                  Wilder is a fraud he don’t want it with j

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Chrismart
                    :anyword:
                    .......
                    This week has basically shown us who is serious and who is not.

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                    • Jimmy gold
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                      #170
                      Wilders team is bluffing smh

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