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    #31
    Originally posted by R_Walken
    140 was a barren wasteland when Crawford competed in it

    Probably the worst division in the entire sport

    He got his straps off of
    Dulhorme for a vacant
    Postol - who’s had 1 decent win
    Indongo - who after getting assaulted by Prograis showed he’s maybe 1 level higher then a scrub


    Add in Lundy, Diaz , Molina , Jean ( none of these fighters has ever won a world championship and between the 4 might have 4-6 good names on their resume in total )

    This whole list consists of 2 fighters who have won a strap ( Postol & Indongo ) Postol got his off Matthysse in a vacant and Indongo who beat Tverosky and Burns . Tverosky has never beaten a legitimate name and Burns got his strap from a vacant fighting a domestic level scrub and hasn’t beaten a decent name in probably 5-7 years

    That’s not impressive or a good list

    Bud is a great fighter with a lack lustre resume just he was at the right place right time with the right connections

    But he shouldn’t be mentioned for fighters having top notch resumes
    This is kind of my thing with TC. I said earlier that he had a good resume but I did struggle a bit. Haha. It's really not that impressive and he's number 2 p4p according to the Ring. It's hard to see why he's put over Loma imo. I mean, obviously Bud has been a level above all of his comp but when the comp isn't that great, it's like, well, what do we really know? I'm hoping after Horn, he gets somebody real at 147. I know they want to let him and Spence marinate, but why not have them collide in the fall? It would answer so many questions about both. Besides Spence beat a broken down Brook and well, he doesn't exactly have the best resume either.

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    • R_Walken
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      #32
      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
      This is kind of my thing with TC. I said earlier that he had a good resume but I did struggle a bit. Haha. It's really not that impressive and he's number 2 p4p according to the Ring. It's hard to see why he's put over Loma imo. I mean, obviously Bud has been a level above all of his comp but when the comp isn't that great, it's like, well, what do we really know? I'm hoping after Horn, he gets somebody real at 147. I know they want to let him and Spence marinate, but why not have them collide in the fall? It would answer so many questions about both. Besides Spence beat a broken down Brook and well, he doesn't exactly have the best resume either.
      Agree Bud gets a pass strictly on the eye test and because he’s associated with Arum who has this Svengali like power to influence the greatness of his fighters to the public & media with great match making

      Like I said Bud looks like the real deal he’s a bad mother f.ucker and seems like a top P4P talent but his resume is borderline sh.it

      His run at 140 is sh.it

      And what’s left Burns ( who hadn’t beaten a name in years and should have lost to Beltran the fight before , Beltran who is always just a fringe contender and only got his strap because it was the WBO ( which Arum seems to controll) was vacant and probably shouldn’t have even been given the decision against the African. And Gamboa who was inactive and severely undersized especially when you consider how much weight Crawford was able to gain after the weigh ins

      Crawford resume isn’t very impressive

      Sh.it in all honesty Danny Garcia had a better resume then Crawford by the time he fought Zab Judah when he was 24/25

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        #33
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        Agree Bud gets a pass strictly on the eye test and because he’s associated with Arum who has this Svengali like power to influence the greatness of his fighters to the public & media with great match making

        Like I said Bud looks like the real deal he’s a bad mother f.ucker and seems like a top P4P talent but his resume is borderline sh.it

        His run at 140 is sh.it

        And what’s left Burns ( who hadn’t beaten a name in years and should have lost to Beltran the fight before , Beltran who is always just a fringe contender and only got his strap because it was the WBO ( which Arum seems to controll) was vacant and probably shouldn’t have even been given the decision against the African. And Gamboa who was inactive and severely undersized especially when you consider how much weight Crawford was able to gain after the weigh ins

        Crawford resume isn’t very impressive

        Sh.it in all honesty Danny Garcia had a better resume then Crawford by the time he fought Zab Judah when he was 24/25
        Right on. It's all been about the eye test but I'm ready to see him in with somebody for real. 50/50 fights for Bud!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          Right on. It's all been about the eye test but I'm ready to see him in with somebody for real. 50/50 fights for Bud!
          No doubt

          But he’s with Arum so he probably won’t be in any 50/50 fights anytime soon they rarely operate like that

          If Bud beats down Horn like we all expect what in-house WW fighter can TR offer Bud that will be a decent fight ?

          I guess we’ll wait and see


          the exception is Loma who should get major props for the Russell win and props if/when he beats Linares

          But him beating Walters & Rigo are great wins on paper it was more of the usual TR Svengali magic great name fighters on the downside coming off long layoffs

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            #35
            Originally posted by R_Walken
            140 was a barren wasteland when Crawford competed in it

            Probably the worst division in the entire sport

            He got his straps off of
            Dulhorme for a vacant
            Postol - who’s had 1 decent win
            Indongo - who after getting assaulted by Prograis showed he’s maybe 1 level higher then a scrub


            Add in Lundy, Diaz , Molina , Jean ( none of these fighters has ever won a world championship and between the 4 might have 4-6 good names on their resume in total )

            This whole list consists of 2 fighters who have won a strap ( Postol & Indongo ) Postol got his off Matthysse in a vacant and Indongo who beat Tverosky and Burns . Tverosky has never beaten a legitimate name and Burns got his strap from a vacant fighting a domestic level scrub and hasn’t beaten a decent name in probably 5-7 years

            That’s not impressive or a good list

            Bud is a great fighter with a lack lustre resume just he was at the right place right time with the right connections

            But he shouldn’t be mentioned for fighters having top notch resumes
            Sounds like a lot of excuses to me.

            If you clean out two divisions your resume is atleast solid.

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              #36
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              No doubt

              But he’s with Arum so he probably won’t be in any 50/50 fights anytime soon they rarely operate like that

              If Bud beats down Horn like we all expect what in-house WW fighter can TR offer Bud that will be a decent fight ?

              I guess we’ll wait and see


              the exception is Loma who should get major props for the Russell win and props if/when he beats Linares

              But him beating Walters & Rigo are great wins on paper it was more of the usual TR Svengali magic great name fighters on the downside coming off long layoffs
              True but I do feel Lome is genuinely daring to be great. He's moving up and going after Linares and I'm not sure Bob wants him to. Still, he's showing that a fighter can make things happen if he pushes for it, at least sometimes, in boxing. His resume will look solid on paper after this one, assuming he wins of course.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Sounds like a lot of excuses to me.

                If you clean out two divisions your resume is atleast solid.
                How are facts excuses, you think that 140 run was impressive , it’s not even decent in all honesty

                Is anything I said not the truth he beat 2 current or former champs 1 guy was a internet hype job with 1 decent win off a Matthysse who struggled against John Molina and barely
                Survived Ruslan before the Postol fight and Indongo who proved to world he’s at best a c+ fighter

                140 was absolute sh.it when Bud slid in there , all the decent names had already left. It was the weakest division at the time when Crawford fought there

                Don’t think for a second that TR didn’t know what they were doing it wasn’t a coincidence

                They did the same thing with Loma when he bounced out of 126 to 130 which was garbage because eventually fans would have wanted to see him fight the top guys at 126 Leo,Mares , Frampton , Valdez ( I’m not saying he loses to any of them ) but TR moved Loma into a sh.it division so he could dominate a weak division and raise his profile as a elite fighter without really being tested against prime elite fighters

                I’m not saying Crawford’s isn’t a f.ucking thug he’s legit but he’s on the P4P because of the eye test( which seems to matter more nowadays) not resume because even with all the straps and accolades compared to almost any other elite fighter he’s resume isn’t great

                Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                True but I do feel Lome is genuinely daring to be great. He's moving up and going after Linares and I'm not sure Bob wants him to. Still, he's showing that a fighter can make things happen if he pushes for it, at least sometimes, in boxing. His resume will look solid on paper after this one, assuming he wins of course.
                For sure Loma wants to be great and me being critical of him doesn’t diminish the fact he’s a A-class P4P thug

                he wanted a strap and fight the best his first fight , took on Salido in his 2nd fight and Russell in his 3rd that’s f.ucking crazy even with his amateur pedigree

                I’m nitpicking and I’m a fan of the guy but you can’t deny for the amount of fights he’s had his resume is wicked and he’s a special fighter

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  How are facts excuses, you think that 140 run was impressive , it’s not even decent in all honesty

                  Is anything I said not the truth he beat 2 current or former champs 1 guy was a internet hype job with 1 decent win off a Matthysse who struggled against John Molina and barely
                  Survived Ruslan before the Postol fight and Indongo who proved to world he’s at best a c+ fighter

                  140 was absolute sh.it when Bud slid in there , all the decent names had already left. It was the weakest division at the time when Crawford fought there

                  Don’t think for a second that TR didn’t know what they were doing it wasn’t a coincidence

                  They did the same thing with Loma when he bounced out of 126 to 130 which was garbage because eventually fans would have wanted to see him fight the top guys at 126 Leo,Mares , Frampton , Valdez ( I’m not saying he loses to any of them ) but TR moved Loma into a sh.it division so he could dominate a weak division and raise his profile as a elite fighter without really being tested against prime elite fighters

                  I’m not saying Crawford’s isn’t a f.ucking thug he’s legit but he’s on the P4P because of the eye test( which seems to matter more nowadays) not resume because even with all the straps and accolades compared to almost any other elite fighter he’s resume isn’t great



                  For sure Loma wants to be great and me being critical of him doesn’t diminish the fact he’s a A-class P4P thug

                  he wanted a strap and fight the best his first fight , took on Salido in his 2nd fight and Russell in his 3rd that’s f.ucking crazy even with his amateur pedigree

                  I’m nitpicking and I’m a fan of the guy but you can’t deny for the amount of fights he’s had his resume is wicked and he’s a special fighter
                  Absolutely man. He's one guy we don't have to worry about cherry-picking.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                    The Gamboa and Postol wins since he didn't seem to struggle with either. I thought those were quality. Admittedly, the Indongo win looked a lot better before Indongo's last fight.
                    Gamboa looked like a midget in that fight and was Still touching up Crawford . Postol ... OMG . Bud fought too cautious and was borderline running . Boring fight .

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      140 was a barren wasteland when Crawford competed in it

                      Probably the worst division in the entire sport

                      He got his straps off of
                      Dulhorme for a vacant
                      Postol - who’s had 1 decent win
                      Indongo - who after getting assaulted by Prograis showed he’s maybe 1 level higher then a scrub


                      Add in Lundy, Diaz , Molina , Jean ( none of these fighters has ever won a world championship and between the 4 might have 4-6 good names on their resume in total )

                      This whole list consists of 2 fighters who have won a strap ( Postol & Indongo ) Postol got his off Matthysse in a vacant and Indongo who beat Tverosky and Burns . Tverosky has never beaten a legitimate name and Burns got his strap from a vacant fighting a domestic level scrub and hasn’t beaten a decent name in probably 5-7 years

                      That’s not impressive or a good list

                      Bud is a great fighter with a lack lustre resume just he was at the right place right time with the right connections

                      But he shouldn’t be mentioned for fighters having top notch resumes
                      Damn Bruh . Thanks . Couldn't have said it better myself .

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