Manny Pacquiao in 2010 would have beaten Floyd Mayweather

[paulf]

.... You are aware that Floyd was way, WAY better in 2010 than he was in 2015 also, right?

Floyd in any era neutralizes Manny's left hand and coasts to a boring decision.

[RisAri0]

It'd be the exact same fight few years ago but just fasterand more punch output from both....that is all.

[D4thincarnation]

You're full of shlt. According to Fat Dan, they wanted the drug testing from day one. Just because you say he is lying doesn't mean he is lying. Especially in the video when he seems to be placing equal blame on everyone. Second, he didn't make anything more stringent. Are you saying 14 days before a fight is stringent? Give me a break, dude. Just man up like even Freddie Roach did and admit Pac was the reason the fight wasn't made during the first negotiation. You don't need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tablespoons of blood!

Those are the facts. You can check themselves. NSAC only did post fight drug test. Floyd mentioned pre-fight ones, and Pacquiao said yes. Then Floyd demanded more and more.

Pacquiao was concerned about the disruption to training and that Floyd's party was running the testing, not NSAC. Floyd turned down NSAC doing it though. We know why now.

What? "Floyd did Floyd turn..." No. Manny Pacquiao agreed to the drug testing, so he said. His coach said no problem. His advisor said no problem. Then suddenly he needed 24 days. You won't go near this because even you know it's complete bullshlt.

NSAC Testing. They were happy to carry out the blood testing, Floyd said no though.

Floyd new his testing was a Joke. Canelo passed it, and Floyd knew he was on something.

Sure. I have an idea about why, which is the same reason that Arum gave. It was because Roger was facing a court case in which he might have to do some time, if I remember correctly. Now again, what does it matter when Pac's side was still ducking the fight and there were never any new negotiations. Any idea why when Mayweather was begging Manny to take the fight before his prison sentence, Pac's side ducked out again saying they need to make a new stadium. And Arum saying Pacquiao prefers another fight with Marquez?

Roger already had a plea deal to keep him out of Jail.
Mayweather.
No negotiations because Floyd didn't want any despite Pacquiao saying, he will do any test Floyd wanted.

Floyd ran from a Prime Pacquiao. Then in his rant video explained it was because of his health.

[CHOWWOKKA]

This ended when floyd said no to a rematch after pacquiaos surgery cuz pacquiao was a sore loser? Hahaha

The magical salt water surgery...

He lost get over it

[travestyny]

Those are the facts. You can check themselves. NSAC only did post fight drug test. Floyd mentioned pre-fight ones, and Pacquiao said yes. Then Floyd demanded more and more.

False. Drug testing was proposed then Manny said he needed 30 days. It was only after he got busted giving blood 24 days before that he was forced to concede to 24 days. And um...that was for the Hatton fight, which was certainly in Nevada.

Report: Pacquiao’s blood tested 24 days prior to Hatton fight
http://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/12/30...r-hatton-fight

Pacquiao was concerned about the disruption to training and that Floyd's party was running the testing, not NSAC. Floyd turned down NSAC doing it though. We know why now.

Bullshlt again. It was a fuucking excuse that they were concerned about USADA. If they were so concerned about USADA, then why did Pacquiao and his team consider using USADA against Rios?

In a ****** report by Lem Satterfield, Koncz said the drug test will be done by either the United State Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) or The Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) ahead of their bout in Macau on November 23.

"The fact is that Manny has requested random drug testing for this fight. We still haven't decided which entity we'll use," said Koncz.

"There will be drug testing," said boxing promoter Bob Arum. "I don't know necessarily if I will want to use USADA. I might want to use VADA, but there will definitely be drug testing."
http://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/05/11...test-rios-bout

And giving less than 2 tablespoons 14 days before a fight is going to affect his training? Give me a break, dude. Complete, utter bullshlt and you know it.

NSAC Testing. They were happy to carry out the blood testing, Floyd said no though.

What's your point if Pacquiao's team said they were down for it? The deal was to get the gold standard of testing and Pacquiao ran for the hills. You know...the same testing that Pacquiao looked into for Rios. Isn't that right?

Floyd new his testing was a Joke. Canelo passed it, and Floyd knew he was on something.

You're pulling shlt out of your ass. Where did Floyd say WADA testing was bullshlt? The guy you are referring to said Floyd thought Canelo was on something. That doesn't mean he thought he was on something and still able to pass USADA testing.

Roger already had a plea deal to keep him out of Jail.
Mayweather.
No negotiations because Floyd didn't want any despite Pacquiao saying, he will do any test Floyd wanted.

Floyd ran from a Prime Pacquiao. Then in his rant video explained it was because of his health.

Wrong.

Bob Arum: Uncle's legal troubles might keep Floyd Mayweather from fighting Manny Pacquiao this fall

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/2010...thers_leg.html

Mind you, that was at the time that Arum was having negotiations....WITH HIMSELF. He made up that bullshlt deadline and it was confirmed that he wasn't discussing with Haymond, or Floyd, or Ellerby, or Schaefer. Complete, utter, bullshlt.

[Phenom]

In 2008 Pacquiao was getting schooled by Marquez what's so different about the 2010 Pacquiao?

[D4thincarnation]

False. Drug testing was proposed then Manny said he needed 30 days. It was only after he got busted giving blood 24 days before that he was forced to concede to 24 days. And um...that was for the Hatton fight, which was certainly in Nevada.

Thanks, you have just confirmed Floyd had no specific terms for drug testing when it was first proposed.
In you notice when he gave blood for the Hatton fight, he took the day of training. So Pacquiao had rightful concerns that if he was tested multiple times in the heaviest training days before the fight, it will hinder his training.

And against Morales he had blood taken the day before the fight.

Floyd also turned down that early testing proposed before the press conference. I wonder why?

Bullshlt again. It was a fuucking excuse that they were concerned about USADA. If they were so concerned about USADA, then why did Pacquiao and his team consider using USADA against Rios?

Pacquiao wanted NSAC to do the testing, why would Floyd turn down the official anti-dopers? In fact Floyd turned down everyone apart from USADA. He also turned down VADA when it became available, even thought they have proved to be superior.

Maybe because he would not have gotten a retro-active TUE with VADA

And giving less than 2 tablespoons 14 days before a fight is going to affect his training? Give me a break, dude. Complete, utter bullshlt and you know it.

Again this is to do how it will disrupt training. Later Floyd agreed that testing should be done at the end of training

What's your point if Pacquiao's team said they were down for it? The deal was to get the gold standard of testing and Pacquiao ran for the hills. You know...the same testing that Pacquiao looked into for Rios. Isn't that right?

You're pulling shlt out of your ass. Where did Floyd say WADA testing was bullshlt? The guy you are referring to said Floyd thought Canelo was on something. That doesn't mean he thought he was on something and still able to pass USADA testing.

Floyd said he knew Canelo was on something when he fought him, but Canelo passed his tests, so Floyd knew his tests had holes in. Holes he could exploit himself


Wrong.

Mind you, that was at the time that Arum was having negotiations....WITH HIMSELF. He made up that bullshlt deadline and it was confirmed that he wasn't discussing with Haymond, or Floyd, or Ellerby, or Schaefer. Complete, utter, bullshlt.[/QUOTE

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Floyd said he wanted to take time out before that date.

Straight after he fought Mosley Arum and Pacquiao tried to get the fight on. Floyd went into hiding.

[Larry the boss]

.... You are aware that Floyd was way, WAY better in 2010 than he was in 2015 also, right?

Floyd in any era neutralizes Manny's left hand and coasts to a boring decision.

He just wanted to start up a dead fight...just enjoy

[D4thincarnation]

In 2008 Pacquiao was getting schooled by Marquez what's so different about the 2010 Pacquiao?

[travestyny]

Thanks, you have just confirmed Floyd had no specific terms for drug testing when it was first proposed.

Why would he? It was supposed to be anytime up to the fight. That's the point. Pacquiao was lucky that he agreed to 14 days.

In you notice when he gave blood for the Hatton fight, he took the day of training. So Pacquiao had rightful concerns that if he was tested multiple times in the heaviest training days before the fight, it will hinder his training.

I don't know what he did. He probably took off from Sparring like he did with the Mayweather fight. Who gives a fuuck? Mayweather would have to do the same thing.

And against Morales he had blood taken the day before the fight.

Irrelevant! He agreed to give him 14 days!!!!

Floyd also turned down that early testing proposed before the press conference. I wonder why?

What???? You are just throwing around a lot of shlt and hoping something sticks. Early testing before the press conference????? What the hell are you talking about? Stop your madness.

Pacquiao wanted NSAC to do the testing, why would Floyd turn down the official anti-dopers? In fact Floyd turned down everyone apart from USADA. He also turned down VADA when it became available, even thought they have proved to be superior.

Maybe because he would not have gotten a retro-active TUE with VADA

You do realize that VADA and USADA use the same WADA independent labs, don't you? Your argument here makes no sense. Saying that he turned down NSAC testing for USADA testing is laughable. That's like saying you turned down getting hit by a tricycle to get hit with a mack truck.

Again this is to do how it will disrupt training. Later Floyd agreed that testing should be done at the end of training

I don't think you know what you are talking about. He gave him a 14 day window. Mayweather would have to do the same damn tests.

Floyd said he knew Canelo was on something when he fought him, but Canelo passed his tests, so Floyd knew his tests had holes in. Holes he could exploit himself

The quotation said that he always thought Canelo was on something. It gave no qualification of when he believed that or if he believed he passed tests while being on something. Stop it.

Floyd said he wanted to take time out before that date.

Straight after he fought Mosley Arum and Pacquiao tried to get the fight on. Floyd went into hiding.

Bullshlt. When Mayweahter was begging Pacquiao to fight him before his prison sentence, Manny was busy saying he wanted Marquez IV and that the Mayweather fight can wait.

Floyd Mayweather has challenged Manny Pacquiao to “give the world what they want to see” and fight him on 5 May.

Last week, five-weight world champion Mayweather had a 90-day jail term deferred so that he could fulfil a date at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
https://www.modernghana.com/news/371...ht-in-may.html

Pacquiao wants Marquez again before facing Mayweather, Arum says

Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, said Monday the Filipino superstar would prefer his next bout to be a fourth fight against Juan Manuel Marquez rather than a super-fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

"That fight [against Mayweather] can still be there for us" a year from now, Arum told The Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...-pacquiao.html

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