Manny Pacquiao in 2010 would have beaten Floyd Mayweather

[WholeSoul75]

This ended when floyd said no to a rematch after pacquiaos surgery cuz pacquiao was a sore loser? Hahaha

[travestyny]

Once everything was agreed Floyd made 11th hour demands for his own drug testing and was completely inflexible.

Maybe this was because he could used TUEs for no good reason with them on his payroll.

Floyd himself said he knew the testing standard wasn't up to much as he said he knew Canelo was on something when he fought him and was not surprised when he passed the test.


Any reason why Floyd said he wanted to take a year or two out in 2010?

Stop with your 11th hour bullshlt. He wanted drug testing since day one of the negotiation. Dan Raphael clearly says it here and gives proof:




Explain why Pacquiao needed 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tablespoons of blood. Or better yet, just give up already. Everyone knows that Pacquiao ducked this fight in his prime. Nothing you say is going to change the fact that even his team members admit to this. Let it go.

[D4thincarnation]

Stop with your 11th hour bullshlt. He wanted drug testing since day one of the negotiation. Dan Raphael clearly says it here and gives proof:




Explain why Pacquiao needed 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tablespoons of blood. Or better yet, just give up already. Everyone knows that Pacquiao ducked this fight in his prime. Nothing you say is going to change the fact that even his team members admit to this. Let it go.

Fat Dan got it wrong.

Floyd even said so himself
Arum took the the contract to Pacquiao, Pacquiao agreed it but put in the stipulation about Floyd coming in over weight after the stunt he pulled with Marquez.

Floyd then said in interviews that he then put in the blood testing.

Any idea why Floyd wanted to take a year or two away from boxing in 2010?

[McNulty]

Better ask the mayweather family about that.

That's crack man, not meth. Get on the level man. Your levels are too low.

[travestyny]

Fat Dan got it wrong.

Floyd even said so himself
Arum took the the contract to Pacquiao, Pacquiao agreed it but put in the stipulation about Floyd coming in over weight after the stunt he pulled with Marquez.

Floyd then said in interviews that he then put in the blood testing.

Any idea why Floyd wanted to take a year or two away from boxing in 2010?

Did you just look at the damn video I gave? Your response is that Dan Raphael is lying???? Why would he lie?

Even when it was revealed to the public, Pac's side said he had no problem with it.

In a video titled "Boxing Legend Freddie Roach Updates Us On Pacquiao" uploaded to YouTube on December 11, 2009, Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, revealed the first hint about Mayweather's request for Olympic-style drug testing, telling roving reporter Elie Seckbach, "I hear negotiations are a little shady. (Richard) Schaefer and them are unhappy about something. They want Olympic-style drug testing. I said, 'Yeah, no problem.' I said, 'Whatever you want.' Since we accepted that, now they're running scared again."[23]

On December 13, 2009, Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, said Mayweather's request for Olympic-style drug testing was a laughing matter and they had no concerns whatsoever about it. "Our reaction is, 'So what?' We know Manny doesn't take any illegal drugs or anything. And none of this is getting under Manny's skin or anything. I'm here with Manny, and to him, it's like a joke. It's a laughing matter," said Koncz.[23]
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF..._Pacquiao.html

So did they have no concerns about it or what?

What does it matter if he will take a year away from boxing? There were no negotiations going on back then anyway because Arum, Pacquiao, and the rest of his team were ducking hard. How the hell are you going to bring up what happened afterward when Pacquiao already ducked out for 2 tablespoons of blood.

Why did he need 24 days? Are you ever going to explain? Did he duck this fight during the first negotiation? Yes or no and why?

[Dean_Razorback]

maybe, who knows. it would've been a lot different that's for sure. what i'm sure is that manny beats all current champions at ww.

[D4thincarnation]

Did you just look at the damn video I gave? Your response is that Dan Raphael is lying???? Why would he lie?

Even when it was revealed to the public, Pac's side said he had no problem with it.




So did they have no concerns about it or what?

What does it matter if he will take a year away from boxing? There were no negotiations going on back then anyway because Arum, Pacquiao, and the rest of his team were ducking hard. How the hell are you going to bring up what happened afterward when Pacquiao already ducked out for 2 tablespoons of blood.

Why did he need 24 days? Are you ever going to explain? Did he duck this fight during the first negotiation? Yes or no and why?

Negotiations started back in November.
Floyd only mentioned blood tests before the fight, when Pacquiao agreed, he made them more stringent untill Pacquiao said enough was enough.

Pacquiao said he would take any test the commission approved of. NSAC said they would do the testing. Floyd said no.


Floyd did Floyd turn down testing from the commission.


Any ideas about 2010, when Floyd said he wanted to take a year or two out of boxing.

Nobody seems to be able to answer that question for me.

[Larry the boss]

well he had his chance and walked away..sooooooooooooo

[ELPacman]

Pac got out smarted in boxing business. Simple as that.

I've not doubt he would of beat Jr. in his prime. He would of been too much for Jr. to handle.

Jr. played games to stall the fight whether it be offering flat fees, requiring blood work, etc. Ultimately, Pac was making decent coin with back to back PPVs that his side didn't feel they NEEDED to come down to Jr's demands. Not to mention Bob Arum hated Jr. so he wasn't going to assist in making the fight happen that easily, especially with Jr.'s demands neither.

Pac went the tough road because of his KO loss to Marquez and finally slipping in every respect; ability, PPV buys, etc. He was prime for the picking for Jr. He would also take the less of a chunk pay because it was still going to be higher than what he was currently making regardless.

In the end Pac lost to a smarter business man who played the right moves, avoided losses (real competition), and got the short end of the stick. I'll still consider Pac's wins 10x more meaningful over anything Jr. did. He outright blitzed his opponents and devastated them in more convincing manners than Jr. ever did. He went back to back against A+ opponents and upset the odds when they were against him frequent.

Can't remember a fight we didn't pick Jr. to win...

[travestyny]

Negotiations started back in November.
Floyd only mentioned blood tests before the fight, when Pacquiao agreed, he made them more stringent untill Pacquiao said enough was enough.

You're full of shlt. According to Fat Dan, they wanted the drug testing from day one. Just because you say he is lying doesn't mean he is lying. Especially in the video when he seems to be placing equal blame on everyone. Second, he didn't make anything more stringent. Are you saying 14 days before a fight is stringent? Give me a break, dude. Just man up like even Freddie Roach did and admit Pac was the reason the fight wasn't made during the first negotiation. You don't need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tablespoons of blood!

Pacquiao said he would take any test the commission approved of. NSAC said they would do the testing. Floyd said no.


Floyd did Floyd turn down testing from the commission.

What? "Floyd did Floyd turn..." No. Manny Pacquiao agreed to the drug testing, so he said. His coach said no problem. His advisor said no problem. Then suddenly he needed 24 days. You won't go near this because even you know it's complete bullshlt.

Any ideas about 2010, when Floyd said he wanted to take a year or two out of boxing.

Sure. I have an idea about why, which is the same reason that Arum gave. It was because Roger was facing a court case in which he might have to do some time, if I remember correctly. Now again, what does it matter when Pac's side was still ducking the fight and there were never any new negotiations. Any idea why when Mayweather was begging Manny to take the fight before his prison sentence, Pac's side ducked out again saying they need to make a new stadium. And Arum saying Pacquiao prefers another fight with Marquez?