Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo Demolishes Hugo Centeno in Two For Interim Belt

[landotter]

🤔🤔🤔🤔.... N’all bro you didn’t do it elsewhere in the chain. The quote button makes it so easy to bring in an ENTIRE message.

You could have even put key points in bold. Can’t stand hollow souls who lack integrity. Lot of folks shape shift these days to conform to whatever opening they land in. Our president is a master teacher of this say anything contorting.

Yep consider me “Frosty” bro no discussion when there is no respect.

Fair enough. Enjoy the fights. Stay frosty.

[GFunk23]

I have zero problem with Charlo. He has a good set of skills, beat the living dog piss out of those he fought at 154, and is a legit talent at 160. He has not been tested at 160 yet, but he has destroyed the "B" level fighters he has fought. I think it is smart to grow into 160 with a couple training camps before stepping up. All I ever said is that Charlo is going to have to wait even as a #1 contender. One of the few good things that has happened in recent boxing history is that to avoid stripping a fighter with multiple belts at the same weight division is the sanctioning organizations will rotate whose #1 contender is the mandatory. Sergiy Derevyanchenko is the next mandatory. Golovkin will have so many months to either fight him or get an exception that will postpone it. Both the Canelo Alvarez fight and the Billy Jo Saunders unification fight would be accepted as exceptions due to their magnitude (and the large % of sanctioning fees those organizations will receive). THEN Derevyanchenko will be ordered, THEN Charlo may be next, depending on the rotation. Jermall Charlo is a beast. But Golovkin has a long list of things on the "to do" list before Charlo is on deck. The Vanes fight is crap. But he was scheduled to fight Canelo Alvarez and no one will fight Trip G who is a top contender for the pittance leftover offered by HBO and Golovkin's team for a last minute replacement fight, so this is a crap fight but not a duck

What I am truly interested in are these "he ducked Andre Ward" narratives, I do not know any real background on that. But if I am right on my timeframe, the last time Ward fought at 168 was Edwin Rodriguez in 2013. After that he was at 175. Seems like the wouldn't line up for a profitable fight at a catch weight. Honestly asking, was there an offer from Ward out there?

Yes early on after arriving in the US, GGG was calling out everyone from 154-168 (because he was having trouble getting fights at 160) and apparently Ward stepped up and offered GGG a fight for all his belts at 168. This offer was made after a fight was largely agreed at 168 between Chavez Jnr and GGG. Ward claims GGG’s team asked for a 164 catch weight and then signed to fight Lemieux. Ward has been mocking GGG and renamed him lil g ever since. Lil g and his team have barely mentioned Ward after this nonsense.

[Mindgames]

Golovkin fought static opponents who would be " available "

Golovkin did not fight a BUNCH of mover/spoilers

he took the fights he wanted, and he passed on the rest..... just like everyone else

What im saying is, at Middleweight who did he duck? Not a great division, for some time, and its alot better now. Id rather see him fight Saunders or Charlo than Canelo again, just because its more intriguing, and i dont see a reason why he shouldn't. But who would you have liked to see him fight?

[landotter]

I had never heard that. Thanks. I will see what I can dig up on that in the archives of the internet now that I have a basic timeframe to look at.

I appreciate it

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[Sid-Knee]

First bold he already fought Canelo for a draw. That's the biggest money fight at the weight. But Pussie g said HE ONLY WANTS TO FIGHT FOR THE BELTS. He was crying like a bytch when Canelo was taking money fights.

So was pussie g lying about only wanting to fight for the belts? Wilder is trying to fight THE BEST WITH A BELT IDIOT. And a fair split f@ggot. If that fight makes $100 million or $80 million in total revenue of course you want more money.

But the main thing is JOSHUA HAS THE BELTS. Wilder wants to unify with him.

So after begging Canelo for another fight he has one option that is Saunders. After that it's Charlo's turn. For some reason bums like Wade, and Vanes, and Monroe, and Rubio, and Adama and Brook moving up two weight classes don't have to do shyt to fight pussie g.

Never do you f@ggots bring up their resume. Never do you f@ggots say what have they done to deserve a fight???

NOW THESE RULES ONLY APPLY TO CHARLO OR ANDRADE OR D-CHENKO???

I wish you f@ggots had this same anger for Vanes getting a fight with pussie g. Man get your f@ggot ass outta here

G wants to fight for the belts but he also wants to fight for legacy, so that's why he took on Canelo. It was a no-brainer. It was the biggest fight at the weight. Trying to make it into something else is just you with a biased mind-set so no matter what happens, you're going to trash G.

Canelo was taking money fights was he? Even though the biggest money fight out there for him was G? Canelo was ducking G because he's a little *****, not because there was more money to be had elsewhere.

Wilder is begging for more money even though he's a scrub who can't sell tickets and gets paid peanuts compared to Joshua but you support him getting a bigger cut of the money? You're a joke. Wilder could fight Whyte as well which would have people interested but he's fighting Brezeale or a Polish nobody instead. I bet you support that as well? Pathetic.

If it's a 100 Mill fight, why hasn't Wilder's side taken Joshua up on the offer of giving him half of that and letting Wilder take the other half? It's because it's a load of bull****, that's why. They even said over a week ago that they were going to come up with a counter offer but Lou said recently that they weren't? Haha, you couldn't make this up. But morons such as yourself will still argue the point. Haha.

You said it yourself, Charlo will get his shot after the bigger fights in Saunders and Canelo have happened. So why are you going off on one? Haha. You just have to write poison because you're an arsehole, not because you make any sense because you don't.

[Sid-Knee]

Clown, I have no agenda and stop giving lil g a pass for fighting a tomato can on May 5. Lil g is 36 and has been at middleweight his whole career. Compare that to Charlo. Yes lil G did fight everyone early on after coming to the US but he previously ducked Ward and just ducked his IBF mando and Andrade (you’re giving him a pass and saying it’s $ related so you don’t think it’s a duck but that’s bs- Vanes is a semi retired 154 lb fighter!). I don’t know of a situation where Charlo ducked a tough fight but I’m all ears if he did (I already said his CV is weak).

It is because of the money you complete tit. They have come out and said as much. The other fights will happen when there's more time to promote and there's more money in the pot.

[aboutfkntime]

Won't argue, as I know you dislike him. But I will repost what I have said a couple times:. In 2017, he fought a top level MW on a KO streak in Danny Jacobs, was negotiating to unify with Saunders over the summer, and wanted to fight Alvarez right after that in September. He backed out of the Saunders match when Golden Boy said they would sign another opponent for September if he did.

So Golovkin wanted Jacobs, Saunders, and Alvarez in one year, as it was had Jacobs, and Alvarez twice in a row. That really is not someone ducking people. That is why he gets a pass for this scrimmage from most people.

But I understand your point. It is not outrageous. Let's see what happens after May 5.

fair call

I seem to have been following this sideshow for a looooong time now..... longer than anyone else..... because I was sick of their bullshht and shenanigans a long time ago..... not sure where everyone else gets their patience from?

I am just a little further along that road than most, because I recognized their MO/excuses a lot earlier than everyone else did

the excuses they gave to avoid Mora, were RIDICULOUS

HBO provided a showcase opportunity against a former world-champ who WAS known..... and yet, after Team Bullshht criticized Mora for being unknown and irrelevant..... they skipped off to someone much worse, on free TV

they then did the exact same thing with Lara (including the exact same excuses, with the exact same result)..... they criticized Lara for being unknown and irrelevant..... then they quickly skipped off to fight a guy I had never heard of

rinse, wash, repeat.....

I have seen enough..... if they will not lift a finger to fight a little old faded 153lb SUPERSTAR like Miguel Cotto, for a HUGE payday and a HUGE opportunity..... then they sure aint gonna tangle with any young lions

[aboutfkntime]

What im saying is, at Middleweight who did he duck? Not a great division, for some time, and its alot better now. Id rather see him fight Saunders or Charlo than Canelo again, just because its more intriguing, and i dont see a reason why he shouldn't. But who would you have liked to see him fight?

fought Adama, instead of Mora - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Monroe, instead of Lara - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade, instead of Ward - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Rubio/Murray, instead of Cotto - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Brook, instead of BJS - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Vanes, instead of Derev - citing a bunch of silly excuses


1) Jacobs was ordered by the WBA, and Team Bullshht did everything they could to kill that fight..... including calling for an early purse bid..... that fight only got signed after the 11th hour, and it only got signed because it was obvious that Team Bullshht were putting up roadblocks to scuttle the fight

2) Canelo was a payday/cashout

based on my last two points, and the list above.....

it appears that Golovkin has never lifted so much as his little finger in order to make a meaningful fight

1) sick of his lame fights
2) even more sick of his cringe-worthy excuses to avoid anyone with a pulse..... the RIDICULOUS excuses they supplied to avoid Mora/Lara, were only surpassed by the absurd excuses they used to avoid Cotto

I just cannot listen to that team of bullshht artists anymore

[GFunk23]

It is because of the money you complete tit. They have come out and said as much. The other fights will happen when there's more time to promote and there's more money in the pot.

I know it is money related but it’s still a duck- the same way Martinez and Sturm ducked GGG for years. If lil g and his team were certain they would win, they would fight a non-tomato can on May 5. HBO would have coughed up more $ for Andrade too

[Sid-Knee]

I know it is money related but it’s still a duck- the same way Martinez and Sturm ducked GGG for years. If lil g and his team were certain they would win, they would fight a non-tomato can on May 5. HBO would have coughed up more $ for Andrade too

No, HBO wouldn't have coughed up more money. There was no time to do a proper promotion.

If you know it's money related, how can that be a duck?