Comments Thread For: Hearn: We Won't Let You Play With Our Balls To Overpay Wilder!

[Ake-Dawg]

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I think it’s a terrible offer, especially when you’re talking about the biggest fight in boxing’s glamour division in over a decade.

Notice he said call Hearns bluff. Who bluffs with a great offer?

[Nomadic]

Bette still, present a counter offer. What do you think?

I hope not. I really want to see this fight.

[Nomadic]

Wilder beings the fight everyone wants to see. Well, everybody that doesn’t have nightmares at the thought of AJ laying on the canvas unconscious.

That's the truth!

[The Gambler1981]

In other word, what are you trying to say?
A guy should be giving X10 his pay while the other should get X2 his pay so that peace will reign.
That's injustice, peace will never reign in that kind of settings.

Life ain't fair, and Joshua's 2X is much harder to get. Ever hear the saying that going from very good to great is much harder than average to very good.

That is the price of being on the high end already only so much higher one can go, and unless Joshua opens up new markets that number will be rather stagnate, which is why it is worth paying Wilder, sooner or later.

They can dance around for a bit and the pie is only getting bigger as long as no one flubs it up which is possible for both men.

[lion33lit]

You are contradicting yourself. If it's all about the legacy and true champion, neglecting the business angle, why is the split so much of a problem for wilder?
He should accept the offer, sign the contract and prove to the world that he is the best. After all he once said its not all about the money.
Talking about fighting tomato cans, how many top 10 fighters has wilder fought over his 40 fights? I need you to answer this question sincerely.

I never said neglect anything. The business aspect is of course important. Its one of the reasons Wilder isn't settling for Hearns silly take it or leave flat fee offer. Oscar didnt do that for GGG/Canelo, Team-Mayweather didnt "force" anything down Pacs throat. So why should Wilder accept? He's fought hard to be where he is, his championship status wasn't given to him. Simply because his potential foe is rich doesnt mean that he's a better fighter, it just means he was managed properly and he's in a location where fans are yearning for a champion to lose their minds over. Close to "equal" fair pay is the "champions" goal right now for Wilder.....of course business is important.

The point is, AJ is RICH and he's focusing more on being MORE RICH instead of focusing on defending his championship status, which many believe is bogus (people are gonna believe what they want). AJ will still get his highest paycheck to add with all his other MANY 8 figure checks - he's set for life financially! Why is it that this is STILL such a priority for him!? He'll get paid waaay AFTER fighting Wilder - against somebody else. Yet "money" - that aspect of the "business" - is all Hearn & AJ is preocupied with?!?
.......Hearn was the one who said, "risk free fights." I didn't. I suggest u find out what HE means. As far as I'm concerned, Wilder has 20 more fights experience over AJ ("risk free" is synonomous with "tomato cans" - to me). Again, you can ask Hearn what he means after he takes his foot out his mouth.....

[hitking]

The fight wont make 10s of millions more than any other AJ fight.

You are looking at 150-200k more ppv buys MAYBE which is 3.5-4 million more.

Gate revenue will be the same as the klitschko fight and hbo or showtime wont break the bank because itll be on at a ****ed time and neither is proven $$$ in america

All this "extra money" people are pulling out of their asses isnt there.

Again, so why not offer Wilder a deal where the revenue split kicks in if a certain number is met? Hearn is basically saying that he’s offering Wilder about 30% of his projections. So if the fight exceeds expectations, obviously Wilder brought more to the table than expected. And they could easily change the start time to accommodate American PPV, and maximize whatever revenue that will bring. And give Wilder the lion share of that. Under those conditions, Hearn has protected himself from overpaying Wilder. And everything Wilder gets that exceeds the $12M guarantee would be based on Wilder bringing more to the table than expected. Problem solved, ring the bell for round one.

[lion33lit]

Povetkin would be Wilders best win outside Ortiz .

Hes getting paid what a highly profiled HW should .

Wilder doesn't know anything about that bc his TEAM probably gets more than he does altogether . lol

The hard truth is Wilder will have a far greater chance of losing before Joshua bc he IS an accident waiting to happen.

Wheather that accident happens or not , i know one thing .......


He will be fighting irrelevant fights while Joshua continues building an actual resume with guys Wilder hasnt fought and wont have on his resume while he makes 1. 5 Million or so !

Yea good luck not needing Joshua !

Being paid lovely can simply mean: Great Marketing! Theres another heavyweight out there thats truly in it for the glory, just like AJ supposedly is. And he wants to get it on!! But AJ seems not too interested because his pockets are already FAT?......Is Josh hiding behind his money, his fan status or in the UK!? AJ will end up being the one NEEDING Wilder very soon or he won't have a legacy worth admiring.

[Earl-Hickey]

Again, so why not offer Wilder a deal where the revenue split kicks in if a certain number is met? Hearn is basically saying that he’s offering Wilder about 30% of his projections. So if the fight exceeds expectations, obviously Wilder brought more to the table than expected. And they could easily change the start time to accommodate American PPV, and maximize whatever revenue that will bring. And give Wilder the lion share of that. Under those conditions, Hearn has protected himself from overpaying Wilder. And everything Wilder gets that exceeds the $12M guarantee would be based on Wilder bringing more to the table than expected. Problem solved, ring the bell for round one.

They arent going to change the time to suit america because for this fight uk $$$ > us $$$ and if they make it a 1am start to suit the US then uk buys will drop.

They could offer wilder an upside like you suggest, idk if he'd accept it.

[lion33lit]

Casuals make up about 80% of the buying public...especially where AJ is concerned. No hardcore boxing fans outside the US will shed money for wilder alone and no casuals anywhere will that's already proven because he draws nothing... Nada...zilch...kaput...

Wilder hasnt put as much work in at all... Not had his team. If he had... He would be commanding the same purses , Gate fees and crowds.

As for Hearn wanting money? He's the one that said it makes half what Finkel has... He isn't the one asking for money all the time without the ability to offer any himself.

He put up good #'s on Showtime and his popularity has grown as theee contender to dethrone AJ....."Nada...zilch...kaput...." - if u say so. You can stay in your bubble and hope everyone feels like you - they don't. You'll end up missing the fight, because you'll be one of his haters busy working hard to convince fans that they really don't like him. It is the hardcore fans that'll tune in to see Wilder, because Wilder IS hardcore.......he's as real as they come........You sir have a good night, I'm out.

[KillaMane26]

Even though Wilder doesnt sell much alone. This fight is big because its Joshua vs Wilder. Not the "Joshua show"