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  • #21
    Originally posted by Cheek busting View Post
    I'm so glad Hearn and Joshua standing firm. They know their value, and they know Wilder's value (or lack thereof).

    They ain't gonna let this chump take food out their mouths.
    Why do you care about what they're earning or food being taken from Hearn's mouth? - He sure wouldn't think twice about taking yours.

    This is the problem with boxing. Fans should remember they are the ones that put money into the sport. Promoters are only playing with money that comes from paying customers. Fans should be demanding the best fights get made at all costs, rather than taking sides of promoters and justifying things.

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    • #22
      FUN FACT: The only time Wilder was set to crack a 5 million dollar purse, was when HE WAS THE B-SIDE against Povetkin in RUSSIA!

      Yes - Povetkin's people won the mandatory bid, and the only reason he was going to make more than Povetkin, is because of the way WBC mandates the purse splits for champions, and challengers.

      This is why title belts can be so beneficiary. Normally, if the fight was going to be in USA against Povetkin, Wilder would have gotten his standard 1.5-2.5 million.

      That just shows you how much of a scrub Wilder is!
      Last edited by Cheek busting; 04-20-2018, 07:31 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Cheek busting View Post
        Maybe he should try to negotiate for that?

        Has he tried to? Made any type of legitimate counteroffer known?
        Serious parties never discuss numbers publicly. guess who?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by jackblack008 View Post
          Serious parties never discuss numbers publicly. guess who?
          So if a Wilder-Breazale fight is announced next week it will tell you what? That Wilder was serious?

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          • #25
            They're two statements in these quotes that show this camp doesn't want the fight.

            1. Why would there be an exception for Wilder, if you're openly admitting that you overpaid previous opponents? It would seem that the guy who brings the most to the table financially should be compensated for increasing the valuation of any potential fight you could get elsewhere. I think anybody with a brain can see that there's considerable interest in the fight here in the US.

            2. Wilder's last two fights have had attendance of 11.5k and 14k @ Barclays. That Ortiz fight was the second highest attendance number in the history of fights there. So why act like Wilder isn't generating buzz here?
            Last edited by Butch.McRae; 04-20-2018, 07:43 AM.

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            • #26
              Hearn is right because this business ain't no fantasy world where are money trees. 10-12 millions for Wilder's profile is more than enough.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by TheBigLug View Post
                Why do you care about what they're earning or food being taken from Hearn's mouth? - He sure wouldn't think twice about taking yours.

                This is the problem with boxing. Fans should remember they are the ones that put money into the sport. Promoters are only playing with money that comes from paying customers. Fans should be demanding the best fights get made at all costs, rather than taking sides of promoters and justifying things.
                I am demanding the fight be made at all costs. HOWEVER, the reality is, boxing is a business, so discussing issues like negotiations, guarantees, etc. are VERY relevant, so us fans know who the responsible party is for ducking the fight.

                Also, it's just funny to see Wilder get put in his place like the low-IQ scrub he is. He thinks he's actually a baller! Adorable! Ah hahahah

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                • #28
                  So Anthony Joshua will not reach his highest figure with that amount to Wilder?

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                  • #29
                    That's some funny bull****. Really so you say it can make 50 but give him a percentage of 40? Why not just give him a %? You don't know how much your going to make. There is a chance it will be a lot more. 31-31% really yeah that's fair... So Joshua makes more money than he ever has and wilder just gets a pice of the fight that he is half of making??? If it wasn't for his hard work in the **** talk compartment this fight wouldn't be this big right now. Like I have stated 2019. It's the politics they want that 💰.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                      They're two statements in these quotes that show this camp doesn't want the fight.

                      1. Why would there be an exception for Wilder, if you're openly admitting that you overpaid previous opponents? It would seem that the guy who brings the most to the table financially should be compensated for increasing the valuation of any potential fight you could get elsewhere. I think anybody with a brain can see that there's considerable interest in the fight here in the US.

                      2. Wilder's last two fights have had attendance of 11.5k and 14k @ Barclays. That Ortiz fight was the second highest attendance number in the history of fights there. So why act like Wilder isn't generating buzz here?
                      Because they stated that 12.5 IS more than fair based on Wilder's worth, i.e., what he's bringing to the fight.

                      Basically, how many asses in seats ,and eyeballs on television sets could Joshua do without Wilder as opposed to with Wilder?

                      So they're saying that 12.5 is already more than he's worth, and they've learned based on past fights and won't make that mistake again.

                      Do you know what the actual gate revenue was?? Do we know for a fact all those 14k tickets were SOLD, or was there like a few thousand of those COMPED?

                      Regardless, ok, let's say Wilder did sell every single one of those 14K tickets. Well, um, Joshua sells 70-90K TICKETS.

                      And more importantly, Joshua is a PROVEN PPV COMMODITY! Wilder is not!! You know why Wilder hasn't been oN PPV in America yet?? Because his people, the ones who would have to put the money up and take the risk, don't believe he is worth the risk! They think the 1.5-2.5 flat fee offers made by Showtime for the television rights are more than what he could do on PPV, or close enough to the point of PPV not being worth the risk.

                      Do you realize that Wilder's career high purse was going to be IN RUSSIA?!!?!? Because Povetkin was even the A-side over Wilder!

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