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  • #21
    Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
    Freddie has spoken out of turn an innumerable amount of times, condescended and belittled Manny's choices and state of being repeatedly. I'm surprised it's taken Pacquiao this long to finally answer back. Roach has shown very little class and even less discretion over the years. He deserves this.
    I agree. Roach is the type of person who let’s his mouth fly without thinking of the consequence of him foul mouthing someone. He’s that insensitive that he would even backstab his star pupil. No loyalty, no discretion. Repeatedly over the years. It’s really time to axe him. At this point PAC is above him in boxing knowledge. He has nothing left to teach.

    And Yup, PAC should have done this earlier. Roach is like a blood sucking vampire with no loyalty. At least Pac’s Core team stick by him. Can’t say that about Roach.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by u122564 View Post
      lets not go overboard, roach has trained 27 world champs...
      "but ANYONE can win a World Championship" says the casuals

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
        I agree. Roach is the type of person who let’s his mouth fly without thinking of the consequence of him foul mouthing someone. He’s that insensitive that he would even backstab his star pupil. No loyalty, no discretion. Repeatedly over the years. It’s really time to axe him. At this point PAC is above him in boxing knowledge. He has nothing left to teach.

        And Yup, PAC should have done this earlier. Roach is like a blood sucking vampire with no loyalty. At least Pac’s Core team stick by him. Can’t say that about Roach.
        Sounds like youre talking about Top Rank

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        • #24
          But you have to admit, MANNY doesnt follow simple instructions and time-honored traditions.......such as when sleeping with **********s, you should wear protection. But then again, roach was never good at teaching his pupils about defense and PROTECTION!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
            I agree. Roach is the type of person who let’s his mouth fly without thinking of the consequence of him foul mouthing someone. He’s that insensitive that he would even backstab his star pupil. No loyalty, no discretion. Repeatedly over the years. It’s really time to axe him. At this point PAC is above him in boxing knowledge. He has nothing left to teach.

            And Yup, PAC should have done this earlier. Roach is like a blood sucking vampire with no loyalty. At least Pac’s Core team stick by him. Can’t say that about Roach.
            Agreed yep.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by paulf View Post
              Mike Tyson hired his buddy Aaron Snowell to be his head trainer back in the day after he fired Kevin Rooney. He had no experience as a boxer, but he had been in the gym hanging around and learned a bit about boxing over the years.

              It didn't go so well.



              His homie had the 80's NY coke face; probably was doing lines in the locker room

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              • #27
                Predicts Manny get his elusive KO; than Miguel Cotto challenges Manny with Roach in Cottos corner....Pay attention

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                  Roach has done a lot for Pac, but at this point in Pac's career. Roach is the one riding in Pac's back and fame. Pac's wisdom in boxing surpassing Roach at this stage. Roach wasn't a great fighter. Manny is.
                  And its credited to Roach. You dont have to be a great fighter to become a great trainer, same with Garcia, but anyways, with your reasoning and logic, what about Buboy, he was never a fighter nor a trainer,right?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Hewito View Post
                    And its credited to Roach. You dont have to be a great fighter to become a great trainer, same with Garcia, but anyways, with your reasoning and logic, what about Buboy, he was never a fighter nor a trainer,right?
                    If you follow Pac's career. In between rounds you'll see that it's actually Buboy who is giving him advices in the ring. Roach talks and Buboy also talks. Sometimes to translate Roach words, sometimes it's really Buboy who was giving him advice. And most of the time Pac gets it, coz Buboy is speaking in his native tongue.

                    People don't get that Buboy has been on Pac's side since day one. Pac listens to him and trust his opinion through the years. Buboy dissected Cotto's game and gave a sound advice to Pac as a true friend and confidant. Buboy and Nonoy Neri are 2 of Pac's best friends that have been there from day one. Even before Roach, Pac was champion because of these 2 by his side. But unfortunately, it was always Roach since he is the head coach who gets the glory.

                    These 2 have a sound knowledge of the game, if you look at practice video footage in Roach's wildcard gym. It's Buboy and Neri giving advices on how to box in the ring, constantly. Roach is mostly silent and have no idea what Buboy and Neri are teaching him. This is Asian knowledge not being understood by Roach. But it's there.

                    These 2 are the unsung heroes of Pac's entourage. They have been there through the years. Battle tested and true loyal confidants that Pac can rely on. They are more than enough. Pac is a Vet. There is no more knowledge Roach can instill in Pac.



                    Neri in red




                    Humble beginnings. Buboy and Neri before Roach came. You can see how long they've been helping Pac be the man that he is more than Roach ever did.

                    Last edited by Spoon23; 04-19-2018, 07:48 PM.

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                    • #30
                      I dont see an issue... Roach doesnt even give good instructions anymore ..

                      At this point, Pac dont need no fkin trainer. Buboy knows him well.

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