The IBF won't sanction GGG-Vanes. Title will be stripped if the fight proceeds.

[The Big Dunn]

I think this is fair. GGG can fight Vanes in Cali on May 5th if he wishes. Derevchenkyo earned his title shot and deserves to get it. He shouldn't have to wait for GGG to fight Canelo again, if he even does.

Rolling Pin dela ******* and Clenger (half clen, half ginger) are basically getting to delay the GGG fight while putting him in a situation where he might get stripped.

GGG is hurt more by Canelo cheating than Canelo is.

[bigjavi973]

The IBF's reasons for refusing the approve the fight are same reasons why the proposed bout with Martirosyan (36-3-1, 21 KOs), 31, a 2004 U.S. Olympian from Glendale, California, has received so much criticism from boxing fans and media: Martirosyan is coming off a loss, he is a junior middleweight who would be moving up in weight and he has not fought in two years.

all the belts doe


belts matter doe

no one wants to fig..... oh wait

[bigjavi973]

What could possibly be the damn reason for that? On top of that, the IBF has no leg to stand on if they decide to strip Golovkin. SD is the mandatory, but no fight was ordered - especially on a 4 week notice.

are you really serious?

The IBF's reasons for refusing the approve the fight are same reasons why the proposed bout with Martirosyan (36-3-1, 21 KOs), 31, a 2004 U.S. Olympian from Glendale, California, has received so much criticism from boxing fans and media: Martirosyan is coming off a loss, he is a junior middleweight who would be moving up in weight and he has not fought in two years.

and he hasn't defended his IBF against a mando since dominic wade almost 2 years ago...

according to ibf rules he has to do that at after like 9 months etc




all of a sudden the ggg fans dont like the ibf....

when before LOTS of fans loved the ibf cuz they "actually enforce their mandatories"

[bigjavi973]

That's my exact point in all of this. Had the IBF just ordered and enforced this fight when they found out the Canelo fight COULD POSSIBLY be canceled, then I'd have no issue and would be all aboard for GGG fighting his mandatory. But if his mandatory is not ENFORCED then he has no mandatory and has only voluntary defenses.

I agree that Vanes should NOT be GGG's opponent though. It's dangerous. It's worthless. WBC and the WBA should be ashamed to even want that.

But to try to strip someone of a belt that wasn't even enforced is strange.

IBF had a chance to say something along the lines of: "it looks like the Canelo fight could get canceled. If it gets canceled before (specific date) then you will be ordered to fight Sergiy, and it will be enforced. If that (specific) date comes and goes with no cancellation, you will be free to make a voluntary defense - just not against Vanes (or anyone like that)."

That way there would be no doubt about what should happen next. You simply can't enforce a fight with 17 days left.

they dont have to order the fight..... the #1 ranked guy is the mando... he hasnt fought his mando in almost 2 years



i dont get why is that hard to understand

[icha]

Time is running out for them to get an exception. The fight date is ~2 weeks away. Just bite the damn bullet and fight Derevyanchenko. Not a fan of Loeffler for the last ~2 years.

Fricking hate the ABCs though. Two of the organizations approve the opponent, but the last 1 doesn't. What could possibly be the damn reason for that? On top of that, the IBF has no leg to stand on if they decide to strip Golovkin. SD is the mandatory, but no fight was ordered - especially on a 4 week notice.

What the hell are they stripping him for? Because he didn't fight his mandatory on a 4 week notice even though no fight was ordered? Horse****.

no one but golovkin is pushing for that date, the ibf just wants sd to be next if canelo isnt available, but since there is no official word on canelo yet they cant decide yet.. i saw on another thread that the ibf is going to wait for canelos hearing to make a decision...

[Street15]

they dont have to order the fight..... the #1 ranked guy is the mando... he hasnt fought his mando in almost 2 years



i dont get why is that hard to understand

Ordering the fight isn't the issue. It's the enforcing part that is. They have to ENFORCE it. Sanctioning bodies order fights ALLLLLLL the time. They don't always enforce them though.

They haven't enforced it yet, or they wouldn't have sent a letter saying they don't accept Vanes. They would have said "we are enforcing the Sergiy fight". They haven't done that yet.

I have no clue why they didn't jump ahead of this in the first place.

And enforcing it now and rushing it would be absolutely silly.

[bigjavi973]

Ordering the fight isn't the issue. It's the enforcing part that is. They have to ENFORCE it. Sanctioning bodies order fights ALLLLLLL the time. They don't always enforce them though.

They haven't enforced it yet, or they wouldn't have sent a letter saying they don't accept Vanes. They would have said "we are enforcing the Sergiy fight". They haven't done that yet.

I have no clue why they didn't jump ahead of this in the first place.

And enforcing it now and rushing it would be absolutely silly.

you have got to be fuggin kidding me right now

[Boxfan83]

[Street15]

you have got to be fuggin kidding me right now

No. I'm not kidding you. They sent a letter saying they will strip GGG if he fights Vanes. Vanes is not anyone GGG should be fighting. I agree with this. It's a dangerous fight.

They pretty much said they have to approve of the fighter that GGG chooses as a voluntary defense.

I say that to say this: had they ENFORCED the Sergiy fight, they wouldn't even be saying they have to approve of an opponent of a voluntary defense because there would be NO voluntary defense if they indeed were ENFORCING the mandatory.

You get what I'm saying now? We're in agreement, you're just taking things wrong as if I want that Vanes fight.

[bigjavi973]

No. I'm not kidding you. They sent a letter saying they will strip GGG if he fights Vanes. Vanes is not anyone GGG should be fighting. I agree with this. It's a dangerous fight.

They pretty much said they have to approve of the fighter that GGG chooses as a voluntary defense.

I say that to say this: had they ENFORCED the Sergiy fight, they wouldn't even be saying they have to approve of an opponent of a voluntary defense because there would be NO voluntary defense if they indeed were ENFORCING the mandatory.

You get what I'm saying now? We're in agreement, you're just taking things wrong as if I want that Vanes fight.

as per their rules they dont have to enforce a mando... the champion must defend against the #1 contender after 9 months

All Other Weight Divisions

1. Mandatory Defense Obligation
Each Champion so recognized by the IBF in his respective weight class from Mini Flyweight to Cruiserweight shall mandatorily defend his Championship within
nine (9) months after its acquisition by him in a contest scheduled for twelve (12)
rounds against a leading available contender as designated by the Championships
Chairman.

Once this initial mandatory defense obligation has been satisfied, the Champion shall defend his championship within intervals of no more than nine (9)
months against the leading available contender in his weight class as designated bynthe Championships Chairman.

http://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfusba_02APR2014/images/pdfs/IBFChampionshipContestRules0218.pdf