CaneloFeb.17 sample was the first he ever gave while in Mexico. A true surprise test

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they got him at the end of his cycle. well done. this is why boxers like floyd didnt do 365 testing. if you only are tested 2 months before the fight just cheat the rest of the time!

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On the boxing voice a caller said he used Clen to cut coke.anyone here ever hear this being used like that?

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both being ultra low traces, if he still had it 3 days later it only means the first test was done when the clen recently got in his system, not on the last day or so like some here claim, if that was the case he wouldnt have any clen left in his body by the second test three day laters.. memo heredia (scienceguru) already explained this and he has no dog in this fight..

They weren't "ultra low traces".

The drug becomes a the****utic dose at 20mg or 0.1 ng. This is directly taking the drug in pill form.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4045696


Canelo was anywhere between 0.6 and 0.8 ng

I'm sorry, but one does not get that much in their system from a 2nd hand source(Meat. Cooked meat at that). What did they do shoot the animal, slaughter it, then put it on his plate 30 minutes later? That's a reach.

[icha]

They weren't "ultra low traces".

The drug becomes a the****utic dose at 40mg 0.2 ng. This is directly taking the drug in pill form.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4045696


Canelo was anywhere between 0.6 and 0.8 ng

I'm sorry, but one does not get that much in their system from a 2nd hand source(Meat. Cooked meat at that). What did they do shoot the animal, slaughter it, then put it on his plate 30 minutes later? That's a reach.

is that how more than 100 soccer players reached those levels too?? way to feed them, lol...

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is that how more than 100 soccer players reached those levels too?? way to feed them, lol...

Except that of that 109, 106 of them were between 50 and 300.

Only the remaining 3 were between +301 and 1300.

So Canelo is something of a 1/100 exception too when it comes to the amount that was in his system. Wow Canelo's story becomes more believable by the second

[icha]

Except that of that 109, 106 of them were between 50 and 300.

Only the remaining 3 were between +301 and 1300.

So Canelo is something of a 1/100 exception too when it comes to the amount that was in his system. Wow Canelo's story becomes more believable by the second

A total of 109 urine samples out of 208 doping control specimens (52%) yielded clenbuterol findings at concentrations ranging from 1–1556 pg/ml

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/....1002/dta.1471

every expert so far even VADA has concluded that both tests are within the meat contamination values, should i believe them or you?? so tell me again, is it impossible to get .6 values from contaminated meat??
you must know something they dont..

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A total of 109 urine samples out of 208 doping control specimens (52%) yielded clenbuterol findings at concentrations ranging from 1–1556 pg/ml

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/....1002/dta.1471

every expert so far even VADA has concluded that both tests are within the meat contamination values, should i believe them or you?? so tell me again, is it impossible to get .6 values from contaminated meat??

Dvorak said FIFA had "no indications" of contamination problems in Spain or other countries.

Contador and the soccer players in Mexico all had their urine tested by the WADA-accredited lab in Cologne, Germany.

While Contador's sample had 50 picograms of clenbuterol per milliliter, the Under-17 World Cup tests showed a "majority" tested between 50 and 300.

Dvorak said FIFA was alerted to potential contamination when three players gave samples of 300-1,300 picograms in the opening days of the three-week tournament, in tests conducted by the WADA lab in Los Angeles.

http://www.espn.com/sports/soccer/ne...s-17-world-cup

He'd still be on the wrong side of the fence along with the 3 guys levels who were way higher than the other one's since he was between 600 and 800. We know a boatload of them failed.

Either way that he had the low amounts you were saying in his system is patently false. We know it becomes active up to 0.1 or a 100 picograms.

[icha]

http://www.espn.com/sports/soccer/ne...s-17-world-cup

He'd still be on the wrong side of the fence along with the 3 guys levels who were way higher than the other one's since he was between 600 and 800. We know a boatload of them failed.

Either way that he had the low amounts you were saying in his system is patently false. We know it becomes active up to 0.1 or a 100 picograms.

again experts have concluded that those values are within contaminated meat values, even the likes of vada, usada and wada have acknowledged this...the first was a high value within the meat range, but still under the range... he doesnt need to eat the whole cow for that... you normally get much higher values than that for doping purposes unless you are caught with the clen on the last day or the day before in your system, thats where the second test comes to help canelos case, being even lower it means he had recently got that on his body when he was tested the first time.. if it was for doping he wouldnt have tested positive 3 days later being how low the first amount was, but dont take my word, science guru memo heredia already explained this better than me, and he really has no dog in this fight to call him biased... it has been posted already in the forum..

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again experts have concluded that those values are within contaminated meat values, even the likes of vada, usada and wada have acknowledged this...the first was a high value within the meat range, but still under the range... he doesnt need to eat the whole cow for that... you normally get much higher values than that for doping purposes unless you are caught with the clen on the last day or the day before in your system, thats where the second test comes to help canelos case, being even lower it means he had recently got that on his body when he was tested the first time.. if it was for doping he wouldnt have tested positive 3 days later being how low the first amount was, but dont take my word, science guru memo heredia already explained this better than me, and he really has no dog in this fight to call him biased... it has been posted already in the forum..

VADA said more research would have to be done to conclude his innocence even though they were in the values. Just like how the USADA has a 4/1 TE ratio for those ultra rare freak beast unicorns that don't exist, the cut off for clenbuterol is at 1000.

Sure he's legally within their values, but its hardly a good or meaningful explanation for being right in the red area when in a pool of over a 100 kids the majority are within 50 - 300

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The first reports said they were the same. I didn't know they released different numbers.

You are getting more than reasonable explanations. Then you act like you dont know ****.

Yep, a clown at its best

Let the hate flow dude.
GGG has you thinking like a mad man