CaneloFeb.17 sample was the first he ever gave while in Mexico. A true surprise test

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  • tokon
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    #41
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    As soon as they sign the testing begins. Why would Canelo sign to be tested if he was still taking Clen? Makes zero sense. He would have put it off a few weeks.
    You're maybe reaching here a little with assumptions about when testing begins etc.
    First you justified the contaminated beef excuse by the levels being the same in seperate tests but now you're justifying the contaminated beef excuse by the levels being radically different?!

    Come on man, just say you don't care what the levels were, or why, you just don't want to accept that (perhaps) canelo just got caught cheating!

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #42
      Originally posted by tokon
      You're maybe reaching here a little with assumptions about when testing begins etc.
      First you justified the contaminated beef excuse by the levels being the same in seperate tests but now you're justifying the contaminated beef excuse by the levels being radically different?!

      Come on man, just say you don't care what the levels were, or why, you just don't want to accept that (perhaps) canelo just got caught cheating!
      What are you talking about? How am i justifying by the levels being different?

      Why would Canelo sign the fight and testing over 3 months out if he was taking Clen intentionally? I think that's reasonable to ask. Majority only sign 2 months out. He could have easily delayed until 2 months out and nobody would have said a damn thing. Why would he run the risk, do you think he's that ******?

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      • stealthradon
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        #43
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        What are you talking about? How am i justifying by the levels being different?

        Why would Canelo sign the fight and testing over 3 months out if he was taking Clen intentionally? I think that's reasonable to ask. Majority only sign 2 months out. He could have easily delayed until 2 months out and nobody would have said a damn thing. Why would he run the risk, do you think he's that ******?
        random testing.
        random.

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        • tdubb
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          #44
          Here comes the steroid experts and Mexican nutritionist lol

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          • Bjl12
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            #45
            Not seeing how others are concluding - "he's juicing". If anything his first failed test being his first test in Mexico gives credence to the beef excuse, honestly.

            Again not saying it was beef or that he wasn't juicing, but it makes sense - IF IT WAS BEEF - for him to test negative in Mexico.

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            • Shape up
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              #46
              Let's look at the circumstances, clenelo has terrible stamina, clen helps with that, his physique has changed dramatically, clen helps with that, he had never been tested in Mexico before, his safe place, GGG specified 10 weeks testing before the fight, clenelo has only ever done 8 weeks, if it was 8 weeks of testing he would have shown no signs of any PEDs, the meat contamination excuse doesn't work as it is a known problem, thus it is easily avoided, bottom line is he popped for PEDs, they were in his system, that's his responsibility, he's guilty

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              • Street15
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                #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                The first reports said they were the same. I didn't know they released different numbers.
                Nope. The letter that VADA wrote to GBP indicating that Canelo was dirty is the OFFICIAL letter.

                The results were NOWHERE NEAR the same. Concentrations 10x greater than your 2nd test is not even close.

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                • ruedboy
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                  #48
                  LA Times reports despite being tested 90X, this was the earliest Alvarez had been tested before a fight.
                  All previous test happened starting 8 weeks before a fight.

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                  • Street15
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                    #49
                    In the end, those defending Canelo don't have a leg to stand on because NSAC has a strict liability clause that says you're responsible for anything put in your body. They don't care how it got it there, as far as their suspension protocol goes. If it's in your system, then you're dirty.

                    It's up to Canelo to provide NSAC proof that it was meat. They'll have to provide the restaurants, the butcher that restaurant gets their meat from, and the farm where the butcher gets its meat from. The burden of proof is on Canelo.

                    No matter what, Canelo will get suspended for 6 months minimum.

                    What's crazy about this is: Why would you sign a fight in Vegas, having lawyers comb through NSAC bylaws, agree to fight in Nevada based on their bylaws, claim innocence knowing they have a strict liability clause, and ultimately end up saying "we didn't warn Canelo about eating meat in Mexico" ??

                    Negligence just isn't gonna cut it. Negligence is something you resort to when you panic and run out of cover up ideas. It's amateurish. GBP knows better than to try to pull something like that. They have to do better moving forward.

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                    • Street15
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      What are you talking about? How am i justifying by the levels being different?

                      Why would Canelo sign the fight and testing over 3 months out if he was taking Clen intentionally? I think that's reasonable to ask. Majority only sign 2 months out. He could have easily delayed until 2 months out and nobody would have said a damn thing. Why would he run the risk, do you think he's that ******?
                      He's saying you have a "meat contamination" explanation for both test numbers being the same.

                      Then you have a "meat contamination" explanation for both test numbers being nowhere near close to the same.

                      Pretty much you ruled out any chance of him doping. Which is fine. You're entitled to rule out whatever you'd like. If you don't want to believe he'd do it, you don't have to.

                      As far as your question goes:

                      That can apply to anyone. Why would ANYONE be that ****** and EVER get caught doing anything wrong? Why would any athlete be so ****** to take any drugs during a time where they know they'd get tested? Why would any athlete run that risk? Are athletes ******?

                      LOL. It's sports. People will ALWAYS look to get a competitive advantage. Some do it naturally. Some resort to a little "extra help".

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