Why do Wilder fans justify Wilder rejecting $12.5 million offer from AJ?

[SkillspayBills]

I'm not a Wilder fan, but fat Dan said it well;
"...to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

Damn bro can you at least give me a minute to rip OP to shreds before you drop a bomb on his thread? Anyone with even a MODICUM of intelligence knows that offer was a crock of ****. Point. Blank. Period.

[Redd Foxx]

Anyone with even a MODICUM of intelligence knows that offer was a crock of ****. Point. Blank. Period.

Absolutely. But, we're talking about NSB here...
The home of such classics as;
-Pac actually beat May, if you watch it in slow mo.
-Ward will never fight Kovalev.
-David Price would beat Wlad.

The cool thing about the truth is that it eventually floats it's way to the surface.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder gets 2 mill at best per fight. 6x that is more than fair considering that money is due to Joshuas drawing power.

Being realistic the split should be around 80-20/70-30 for Joshua.

Wilder-Joshua is a monster fight that will draw money and interest from everywhere, so historical figures don't much matter (will note that Wilder has been a million dollar fighter since the fight against Stiverne and growing).

Wilder-Joshua brings MGM Resorts into the picture in a major way, and Wilder-Joshua brings Showtime PPV into the picture as well; both moves are worth, quite literally, are worth what Hearn offered Wilder, each.

We already know what the ceiling for a blockbuster showdown at Wembley can command as a maximum; depending on what you believe, that number is £30m ($43m to the fighters).

Wilder is working with a potentially far larger pot than that; splitting $70m between Wilder and Joshua isn't unheard of and that number could exploding higher if the casual fan launches.

[Raggamuffin]

Who are you and what have you done with Raggamuffin?







:P

I think you oughta know by now that I keep G when it comes to this sport.

[Scipio2009]

Joshua already makes top notch boxIng star money, no matter who he fights.

Wilder can't make that money without Joshua.

Wilder has no negotiation pull here. If he doesn't fight Joshua for 12.5 he will be back to making 2 mill fight No someone else who may beat him. His win vs Ortiz was great, but let's not act like he wasn't flirting with a L there. He's not going to risk losing 12.5 to potentially lose a fight for 2 mill.

Deontay Wilder's market just saw two fighters split an alleged $400m. Anthony Joshua's market basically tops out at $45m to the fighters.

Wilder makes Joshua money the moment he gets to drawing the casuals through. Wilder draws 500k on PPV and he's got Joshua's purse.

[Raggamuffin]

The cool thing about the truth is that it eventually floats it's way to the surface.

In other words, "Boxing always comes full circle"!!!

[Scipio2009]

The pot in the Klitschko vs Joshua was only $30 mil.
And Klitsch was 10x bigger than this Wilder guy.
The pot was split in half.
Klitsch wasn't even begging for the fight.
He was pursued by Hearn.
This Wilder guy was begging.
Yet $12.5 mil is still not enough for him.
Kills me.

Pounds not dollars, lol. £30m is basically the equivalent of $45m.

Deontay Wilder was offered $12.5m. Assuming that Matchroom can match the Klitschko fight, the offer get Wilder short of 25% of the take.

[Raggamuffin]

The pot in the Klitschko vs Joshua was only $30 mil.
And Klitsch was 10x bigger than this Wilder guy.
The pot was split in half.
Klitsch wasn't even begging for the fight.
He was pursued by Hearn.
This Wilder guy was begging.
Yet $12.5 mil is still not enough for him.
Kills me.

You're one dumb mother****er lmao.

[juggernaut666]

To be honest, as a neutral, a lot hinges on Deontay Wilder's team's comeback for me. And they're taking their damn time. Anything over a demand for $20 million guarentee and you have to question how serious they are. Eddie Hearn, despite all his faults, is a straight-talking man. Meanwhile on the US side it seems a lot of cloak and dagger stuff, a bunch of headless chickens trying to protect their investment. Seems Wilder himself is fed false information by his team.

Seems ? The guy was told he had a restraining order against him and he believed it .


His TEAM must be having a field day with this guys money , i honestly wonder what contracts they handed to him .


Those old videos of Wilder lighting toys on fire is starting to add up now !


The only ones dumber than Wilder are his fans , like the top idiot of B Scene above me .Raggatard.

[The plunger man]

I'm not a Wilder fan, but fat Dan said it well;
"...to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

wilder is a non entity compared to the 2nd best fighter of our generation and pacquaio was already 4 or 5 division champion and was a proven ppv star in his own right.
Don't compare wilder to pacquaio as its like comparing a B movie star to al pacino.
I don't see anyway wilder can earn that type of purse in any of his future fights and if wilders team thinks he can make more against joshua why have they not come up with a counter offer.....thats because wilder is a risk and they cant guarantee why revenue he will make in america