Why do Wilder fans justify Wilder rejecting $12.5 million offer from AJ?

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  • A.K
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    #11
    Why did you justify ggg rejecting 10 mil from Oscar you moron?

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #12
      As Fat Dan said flat payment for this caliber a fight like many isn't a great decision.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #13
        In what line of business do you jump and accept a 1st offer without negotiating?

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #14
          Originally posted by larryxxx..
          In what line of business do you jump and accept a 1st offer without negotiating?
          Any line of business if it's 6x the worth. If someone offers you 6x what your car worth you going to negotiate or take it? 6x your house worth, negotiate?

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            #15
            Originally posted by oscar9992
            Why do Wilder fans justify Wilder rejecting $12.5 million offer from AJ's team?
            Because Wilder fans are ******ed.

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            • Split Decision
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              #16
              Originally posted by larryxxx..
              In what line of business do you jump and accept a 1st offer without negotiating?
              aaaand hes reverted back to a businessman and not a fight fan as it fits his agenda

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #17
                Originally posted by Split Decision
                aaaand hes reverted back to a businessman and not a fight fan as it fits his agenda
                They all have. When Wilder was asking 50% they were all "we don't care about numbers, we just want to see the fight"

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                • Holler
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by larryxxx..
                  In what line of business do you jump and accept a 1st offer without negotiating?
                  I agree with this.

                  It would help if both sides here could see this as what it was, an opening salvo in a negotiation.

                  If they reach a deal it won't be this one. Wilder will want some concessions, a percentage deal rather than a flat fee. He'll get that in my view and rightly so.

                  He'll also want a greater share of the percentage. I don't think he'll get that and he doesn't deserve it either in my view. He doesn't bring much to the table commercially or via belts either.

                  Ultimately it needs to work for both parties or there's no deal. Hearn understands that. If he refuses to budge from this deal its fair to conclude he doesn't want the fight at this time. If Wilder doesn't accept that he's not bringing anywhere near the same to the table as AJ then the same applies to him.

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                  • Holler
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Any line of business if it's 6x the worth. If someone offers you 6x what your car worth you going to negotiate or take it? 6x your house worth, negotiate?
                    If your lucky enough to find your house is built on an oil well or a gold mine then yes!

                    You may not have the mining equipment needed to extract the wealth but you'd still want a share of the proceeds.

                    The fight will only happen if both fighters are going to share the risk of it underperforming and the rewards of it exceeding expectations.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      I'm not a Wilder fan, but fat Dan said it well;
                      "...to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

                      A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.
                      Oh look it's Mr "im not a wilder fan" again.

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