Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: Jorge Linares is a Very Dangerous Fight For Me

[Shadoww702]

Unless you have insider knowledge and amazing luck you will never make money betting on favorites in any sport because 1 loss will wipe out the wins from 5-10 gains. One way to maybe win is bet on high odds outsiders when you think that the favorite is over-favored and maybe slipping - especially if you have spotted slippage. Think Chocolatito - many even said that 115 was a step too far - which also is another reason to bet when a good fighter is going up. For every Ward who successfully goes up there are 5 who don't.

Golovkin is past his prime now. I'd say it's favorable odds that he loses in his next five fights, definitely ten idf he goes that far. Just bet against him regardless of what you think as long as you can get 7-1 or 8-1 odds or better. [obviously won't be in a Canelo fight] - but lets say a Spike O'Sullivan fight. It's just a numbers game.

Flanagan is going to 140 this upcoming fight. I don't know what the odds are for Hooker but he is undefeated at 140 so if he was better than 5-1 I would be tempted as Flanagan never really set 135 on fire.

If you time it right and catch and older fighter on the downfall you can make some very good $$$$. Loma is to young and strong to lose to Linares. But those odds??? Why not throw some $$$$ on him. Its boxing. 1 punch can change the entire fight.

If GGG was going to fight Sirgiey I was gonna put a lot of $$$$ on Sirg. Especially with all the drama GGG is having to deal with. But his team isn't that dumb. And will pick a safe fighter.

[Ake-Dawg]

Who could he have fought that he didn't?

Let me be clear. He hasn't ducked anyone and my emphasis is on " recognition he desires". To have that, this should not be his first fight at lightweight.

[Ake-Dawg]

LOL Loma fighting T Bud would be like Duran fighting Hearns, or Foster fighting Ali ie a true size mismatch.

Bud walk around 175 ffs.

You should cut that crap of Loma being protected, like you stated he lost to Salido fighting him in his second pro fight, that's the very opposite of being protected.

I see all the people finding excuse of one year lay off for Walters, but haven't heard about the one year lay off Gamboa had before facing Crawford from the demographic.

1. Crawford weight while walking around out of shape is not the same as rehydration weight for a fight. The point that is to be made is that the recognition that Loma seeks comes from beating a bigger man and being a champ at 4+ weight divisions.

2. Loma fought in 2 Olympics. He wasn't sitting around fighting nobody between 2008 and 2012. They just weren't sanctioned bouts to protect his amateur status. He is seasoned.

[SteveM]

Let me be clear. He hasn't ducked anyone and my emphasis is on " recognition he desires". To have that, this should not be his first fight at lightweight.

Still not clear for me. You saying he should be fighting Mickey or Easter at 135 before Linares?

[Ake-Dawg]

Still not clear for me. You saying he should be fighting Mickey or Easter at 135 before Linares?

No. I'm saying that for the recognition that he desires, he should have been fighting at 135 for a few fights at least at this stage. His recognition level is reflective of fights he's had.

[BillyBoxing]

1. Crawford weight while walking around out of shape is not the same as rehydration weight for a fight. The point that is to be made is that the recognition that Loma seeks comes from beating a bigger man and being a champ at 4+ weight divisions.

2. Loma fought in 2 Olympics. He wasn't sitting around fighting nobody between 2008 and 2012. They just weren't sanctioned bouts to protect his amateur status. He is seasoned.

1. Who said Loma had to beat Crawford to be a legend and or a P4P best or whatever?

Crawford started 2 divisions higher than Loma, and this younger and rehydrating 20 pounds.

Would be already a big achievement if Loma beats the bigger Garcia.

2. Seasoned as an amateur, but not as a pro, and def not for a 12 rounder.
Floyd Ward were decorated amateurs since they both won olympic titles (I heard Floyd was rodded), yet they waited 20 fights to put them before anybody relevant in a 12 rounder.

Even if Loma was more experienced, I think we can all agree that Loma should have waited at least 5 fights before taking on a world title.

[Ake-Dawg]

1. Who said Loma had to beat Crawford to be a legend and or a P4P best or whatever?

Crawford started 2 divisions higher than Loma, and this younger and rehydrating 20 pounds.

Would be already a big achievement if Loma beats the bigger Garcia.

2. Seasoned as an amateur, but not as a pro, and def not for a 12 rounder.
Floyd Ward were decorated amateurs since they both won olympic titles (I heard Floyd was rodded), yet they waited 20 fights to put them before anybody relevant in a 12 rounder.

Even if Loma was more experienced, I think we can all agree that Loma should have waited at least 5 fights before taking on a world title.

You're missing the context of what's being said. No one said that Loma had to beat Crawford to be anything. He says he should be getting more recognition than he currently is. I, like others, feel that the recognition that he desires only comes from moving up and beating bigger guys.

As for experience, I think its less about being in 12-round fights as it is the # of opponents and "styles" faced. I find it hard to believe that a 2-time Olympic gold medalist doesn't have the same amount of rounds under his belt as say Errol Spence who has like 6 more pro fights. Lastly, you think Arum believed that Loma would lose to Salido?

[BillyBoxing]

You're missing the context of what's being said. No one said that Loma had to beat Crawford to be anything. He says he should be getting more recognition than he currently is. I, like others, feel that the recognition that he desires only comes from moving up and beating bigger guys.

As for experience, I think its less about being in 12-round fights as it is the # of opponents and "styles" faced. I find it hard to believe that a 2-time Olympic gold medalist doesn't have the same amount of rounds under his belt as say Errol Spence who has like 6 more pro fights. Lastly, you think Arum believed that Loma would lose to Salido?

Probably not but Arum still get paid and he's not the guy taking the loss.

Believe me, fighting 3 rounds and 12 rounds are 2 different sports.

If high level pro boxing matches were 3 rounders.

Kahn would be probably be undefeated at this point, might have beaten Canelo.

Jermain Taylor would have been an ATG.

Floyd might have lost to Judah.

When you're fighting a 12 rounder, that's where the strategy, the focus, the guile, the stamina, the mental plays a bigger part.

You're not prepared for that even if you fought 1 000 000 times 3 or 4 rounders in ams, even 5 rounders in WSB.

You need to start with a bunch of 10 and 12 rounders against contenders.

[j0zef]

The joke of the day! Lol.. I see Loma is getting some coaching. No, he isn't.

He's moving up in weight and fighting the #1 fighter in the division.

If you want more than that, it's a reflection on you rather the reality of the situation.

[racostaa]

Its easy Loma. Make him move up two weight divitions for you being able to be strong. Worked perfectly with Rigo