This makes a lot of sense, why rush this fight when it can be built up into a much bigger fight. Lou just looking to take quick money here and not looking out for the long term interest of his fighter who could make a lot more money in a bigger fight instead of getting KOd for 3 weeks notice
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Originally posted by factsarenice View PostTrue Sergiy can fight on the 5th and make $300,000 or....
Sergiy can wait until after the Canelo rematch and fight GGG in a fight that can be properly promoted 3 million.
There is a difference between 300k and 3 million, just sayin.
GGG likely fights Canelo in September then BJS after that.
Derevyanchenko won't get his title shot until later next year at that rate
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Originally posted by satiev1 View PostI'm not following. Why would he get paid less fighting sergey than fighting vanes? Is loeffler implying that sergey would want more money?
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Originally posted by Street15 View PostThat is exactly what the issue is. Let's just say for example the HBO budget is only $1.5m. GGG wants 1.25 for sure, but Sergiy thinks he should get more than 250k. Which, if we're being honest, he should be paid more to fight GGG. But Lou is so deadset on the belt that he's not looking out for his fighter's pockets and/or well being.
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Originally posted by icha View Posthe is a mando he is getting more than that, a fair pct shoiuld do it...
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Postthe clown Loeffler and Vanes both basically confirmed yesterday what I always felt. The money is VERY low. It also explains why Spike turned down their deal. He agreed to all the terms weeks ago when the fight was scheduled to be at the MGM Vegas on PPV. Once Loeffler realized that GGG wouldn't be able to sell at the MGM and to avoid a disaster where GGG is in a half empty arena they moved the fight out of vegas and off PPV to avoid a PPV flop. Then begged HBO to finance it but HBO isn't ****** and is only giving them a limited budget. That means you are left with two options
1. BOTH fighters take a equal discount
2. You give almost the entire budget to GGG and give literally nothing to the opponent
They are being cheap GGG doesn't want to take much of a paycut to make a better fight. Vanes himself was asked about the money and said I don't care about money if I win I'll get money after. Loeffler admitting they don't have money to offer as an excuse for ducking the IBF mandatory but how do you know what they are willing to fight for when you refuse to even negotiate a fight with Lou?
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Originally posted by Graz View PostUsing Loeffler’s logic I’m not sure anyone would be “suitable” for him or more importantly HBO. Money and only money is the driving force in any of these fights. K2 should be forced to have Golovkin fight the mandatory opponent if that mandatory is willing and able to fight. Bad business this boxing business.
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Originally posted by yankees7448 View PostWhat the **** are you talking about GGG doesn't want to take much of a paycut? He probably made somewhere between 10-15 million for the first Canelo fight. He probably could have counted on at least that much or more for the rematch. For this fight GGG would have to share a one million dollar budget with his opponent. How much further do you want him to cut his salary.
They offered Spike more money and he agreed to all those terms weeks ago. then they switched the fight from PPV to HBO and Spike's offer dropped. Loeffler even admitted to this using it as an excuse saying we can't pay for our mandatory we don't have the money.
If GGG wants more money how about you make a better quality fight or move your fight date? You choose to do neither and expect opponents to fight basically for free? HBO would give more money or you could sell it on PPV if it were a better fight but he don't want to take a risky fight or move the date.Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-13-2018, 04:13 PM.
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Originally posted by Street15 View PostWhere is the "more than that" money coming from? You certainly aren't suggesting to pay a 3 title holding, undefeated champ that has sold out Madison Square twice, and fills every other arena he steps in to almost max capacity, and hasn't made less than $1.5m in a fight since 2014 less than a million are you?Last edited by icha; 04-13-2018, 04:06 PM.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostBINGO. At first I was putting most of the blame on Loeffler just being a complete amateur clown. But listening to some of the comments yesterday especially from GGG it seems obvious Loeffler knows this is a terrible idea and wants to move the date but GGG is the stubborn idiot here. He really thinks that somehow him fighting on Cinco De Mayo even if it's a disaster against a 154lber that nobody cares about will make him a superstar. LMAO
GGG is the one who is fixated on this date. A date that has NO SIGNFICANCE to a kazaphukstan fighter. He's not mexican, he's not fighting a mexican, he's never fought on cinco de mayo, he's not fighting in vegas and he's not fighting on PPV. At this point somebody should explain to this idiot that this is hurting his image especially if it costs him the IBF belt in the process. There is no difference to a fighter like GGG fighting on May 5 then say June 15. Move the date get a real opponent more time to promote it and you can please your fans with a better fight. Everybody wins. Loeffer is over his head but he isn't an idiot. Unless this isn't about belts or fans and loeffler is just doing what GGG tells him the date should be canceled. This is a bad look for GGG and somebody needs to explain that to him.
He wants to fight on that date because his training was geared with making him at his fighting peak on that date. Let him do what he wants. He's not the one who killed the fight with Canelo.
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