Should AJ also demand 15 x his best payday?

[Ray*]

To be honest i just want to see the fight just like those Wilder fans, they didn't care about the numbers then so they don't really care about it now. So no more excuses, no more ducking, no more dodging. They have two good offers now.

[GGG Gloveking]

40% is what Pacquiao made against Mayweather. Did Canelo get 40% against Mayweather? Did Cotto? Did Bradley get 40% against Pacquiao? Did JMM?

Wilder is so far away from Joshua in drawing power 40% is way too much.

Instead of quoting me, you should argue against the OP math, where he said the flat fee is roughly 40%.

I'm simply agreeing

[rolshans]

i think the gate makes more than joshua vs wlad. they priced that fight conservatively while second hand resellers made a killing on up charge. hearn isnt gonna miss out that chance on this fight. i also think SHO will test ppv for this fight considering theyve invested a good portion into these two over the last few years. they dont need mayweather ppv numbers, just solid numbers around 300-400k to make money.

We'll I think that last point is a real question.

Does Showtime put it on PPV? If they have the main event at 6pm EST, I doubt it. But maybe they can compromise and have it really late UK time. There might be noise issues though.

[boliodogs]

What either boxer made in past fights isn't that important. This is the big fight that fans want to see and each man is half of that fight. Wilder isn't a ***ing challenger. He is a champion. If AJ won't offer him at least a 65/35 split in AJ's favor of all the available money to pay the boxers then he is pricing himself out. If Wilder gets 12.5 million then AJ probably gets 3 or 4 times that much. You think that's fair because you are bias as hell. I was on AJ's side in this debate until he made that joke of a flat fee offer. Now it looks like he doesn't want to fight Wilder in the UK or anywhere else and this fight might never happen thanks to AJ's refusal to pay Wilder a fair amount.

[Raggamuffin]

Why is it that Wilder and his ******ed fans think it's fine for Wilder to ask for 10x+ his best ever payday whereas AJ should settle for 40-50%+ his?

Can somebody explain this to me?

Calculations:

Gate: USD10-12m
PPV (UK only) 1.5million x £19.95 (30 USD ish) = 45million
US TV: USD 10million

International TV: USD2million

total = 69million

Sky take 20%
Eddie takes 20%

44million left.
They offered Wilder ca 17m so roughly 40% of the fighters purse.

What's the issue here?

Go at it gentleman.

Go at it? Flat fees don’t belong in boxing. These are ongoing negotiations so be patient.

[New England]

40% is what Pacquiao made against Mayweather. Did Canelo get 40% against Mayweather? Did Cotto? Did Bradley get 40% against Pacquiao? Did JMM?

Wilder is so far away from Joshua in drawing power 40% is way too much.

dude joseph parker got 33%!

wilder is not going to take a flat offer with no date, no guarantee that the fight was even next, no venue, and 48 hours to agree to terms that aren't even spelled out! that offer is designed to not make the fight. surely you have to understand that and aren't this naive.

[LacedUp]

What either boxer made in past fights isn't that important. This is the big fight that fans want to see and each man is half of that fight. Wilder isn't a ***ing challenger. He is a champion. If AJ won't offer him at least a 65/35 split in AJ's favor of all the available money to pay the boxers then he is pricing himself out. If Wilder gets 12.5 million then AJ probably gets 3 or 4 times that much. You think that's fair because you are bias as hell. I was on AJ's side in this debate until he made that joke of a flat fee offer. Now it looks like he doesn't want to fight Wilder in the UK or anywhere else and this fight might never happen thanks to AJ's refusal to pay Wilder a fair amount.

So Wilder can expect to 10x his best payday, but AJ should settle for 0.5x his best payday because past fights don’t mean nothing?

Winning 3 belts, unifying twice, selling out stadiums and going on PPV means nothing because Wilder is fighting

This fight is big because of two things:

1) AJ
2) Undisputed title

Wilder as a commodity has limited effect on the size of this fight.

[New England]

Go at it? Flat fees don’t belong in boxing. These are ongoing negotiations so be patient.

don't trust a word that dude says. he even appears to have switched to canadian dollars for no reason other than to make an offer look bigger

you can't make this stuff up! these guys are legit scared and they don't even have to put on gloves and fight! and they're not going to see a penny of joshua's money. this really is shades of pacquiao - mayweather, these people are completely deluded.

[New England]

So Wilder can expect to 10x his best payday, but AJ should settle for 0.5x his best payday because past fights don’t mean nothing?

Winning 3 belts, unifying twice, selling out stadiums and going on PPV means nothing because Wilder is fighting

This fight is big because of two things:

1) AJ
2) Undisputed title

Wilder as a commodity has limited effect on the size of this fight.

lol at this scared rhetoric. you're literally scared and don't want this fight to happen.

[uppercut510]

how much was parkers last pay compared to what he got vs aj? why wasn't that a problem or argument?