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  • Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
    Man I told you there is no sense to what these Wilder fans say, they just flip flop with the wind. AJ never had an issue fighting Wilder but he was never going to be generous during negotiations considering how Wilder’s team have conducted themselves. A flat fee isn’t the way forward but if I’m Hearn and Joshua I’m not overpaying this guy at all, Wilder needs them way more and he can’t pretend it’s not the case anymore.

    Another poster absolutely said something so true, Wilder only started gathering a fan base as Joshua gained popularity. He had been regarded as a protected hype job and in the space of a year he’s suddenly become the best HW around, windmills and all.
    Yeah, I noticed that too :ANYWORD:

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    • Originally posted by Holler View Post
      Look at each fight in turn. AJ has no belt to offer himself so pays Martin to come over and defend in UK. He massively overpays him far more than he's worth AND agree to fight 2 Haymon picks for his first two defences (Brezeale and Molina).

      For Parker he has to persuade him to travel and risk the belt that's his main source of income in a fight AJ is favoured to win. He overpays again to get the belt.

      Now however the situation is different. We agree that Wilder is a legitimate threat? He could spark AJ out no question. Now AJ has every belt but one so beating him puts you into the history books and it would turn Wilder into a superstar earning massive amounts each fight.

      So AJ is now offering a lot more in return than just the finances. He's offering a shot at legendary status and all in one fight rather than 4. He's paid to get to this point and he may now be asking why he should continue to pay to a guy who has badmouthed him whilst doing absolutely nothing to unify himself.

      I think he'll wind up giving Wilder a percentage (and I think he should) and whilst it shouldn't be 40 I think it will be 35 or near that. So he'll do fantasically well financially. But you're fooling yourself if you think Wilder's bringing a significant chunk of money along with him because AJ is already near enough maxing out the gate and PPV and doing well with international rights.


      35 percent is fine but we all know Wilder has been trying too unify but AJ bring cash so he gets first crack....

      I mean who has really wanted too fight wilder outside of no hopers and prospects. I don’t think he should be payed for being froze out but he does bring the most cash and Prestige..


      This fight is the first time Wilder is high risk/ high reward is he not???

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      • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        He's saying if they think it's a guaranteed 100m fight then they should offer him 50million and they'll go 50-50.

        Makes sense to me-
        So you think that for a fight that grosses $100M in revenue (not profit) Joshua should get $50M and the networks Wilder and Hearn take what's left? Unless you interpret that to mean $100M in purses. For me, 50-50 means each fighter gets half of the profit once the venue and network gets their cut. Thus 50-50 doesn't result in Joshua getting $50M from a $100M fight.

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        • 50-50 from a fight that generates $100 mill is not $50mill. Network and cable wants their cut, that’s $50m to networks. Then you’re left with $50mill for fighters, then you split that and it’s $20mill for Wilder, $30mill for Joshua (60-40). $12.5 mill is a low ball offer. That’s about a 75-25 split.

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          • Originally posted by Mrbamladen View Post
            Again professor......I'm still confused. Aj is asking for 50m. So if this fight is only gonna make 40m max, isn't he pricing himself out??? He wants more than the fight is worth according to you. So why not just sign for 50/50??? Come on professor. Help me understand fan boy logic.
            You just read the title didn't you?

            He said if they say it is a 100 million dollar fight, then he will even take 50/50 and accept the 50 million dollars.

            What do you not ****ing understand about that?

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            • Originally posted by Gentblue View Post
              35 percent is fine but we all know Wilder has been trying too unify but AJ bring cash so he gets first crack....

              I mean who has really wanted too fight wilder outside of no hopers and prospects. I don’t think he should be payed for being froze out but he does bring the most cash and Prestige..


              This fight is the first time Wilder is high risk/ high reward is he not???
              You are right that wilder hasn't had the same money to pursue the belts, although it could be argued that if he'd sought better opponents he'd have built a bigger following. My view is that he and his handlers have been too concerned with avoiding risk, preserving the 0 and assembling a KO reel of second rate opposition.

              I do question how much cash he brings. The fight makes most money in uk and AJ is already maxing that market out. There's some additional money from getting to undisputed but that's really down to AJ not Wilder's presence, aside from being the final belt to collect.

              Anyway, I hope he gets an offer he probably doesn't deserve just to get the fight on.

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              • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                So you think that for a fight that grosses $100M in revenue (not profit) Joshua should get $50M and the networks Wilder and Hearn take what's left? Unless you interpret that to mean $100M in purses. For me, 50-50 means each fighter gets half of the profit once the venue and network gets their cut. Thus 50-50 doesn't result in Joshua getting $50M from a $100M fight.
                Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                50-50 from a fight that generates $100 mill is not $50mill. Network and cable wants their cut, that’s $50m to networks. Then you’re left with $50mill for fighters, then you split that and it’s $20mill for Wilder, $30mill for Joshua (60-40). $12.5 mill is a low ball offer. That’s about a 75-25 split.
                Wilders team are saying Joshua's 12.5 mil offer is 12.5%. They are talking about there being 100 mil to split for the fighters. Joshua is shutting that nonsense down with this offer.

                You think Wilder should get 10x (20 mil) his highest payday and Joshua get less than 1.5x his (30mil), how is that fair?
                Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 04-13-2018, 04:51 AM.

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                • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
                  hearn said he wants big baby in the states, I think wilder and aj will fight after 1 or 2 or more fights, this is really what eddie wants and its okay. I think Aj needs to fight a big puncher before wilder and I think he and eddie know it as well. I just wish he would say it outright to calm down these posters who agree with his every move and flip flop.
                  Thank You So Much! It's good to see that there's hope for the world!

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                  • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    Wilders team are saying Joshua's 12.5 mil offer is 12.5%. They are talking about there being 100 mil to split for the fighters. Joshua is shutting that nonsense down with this offer.

                    You think Wilder should get 10x (20 mil) his highest payday and Joshua get less than 1.5x his (30mil), how is that fair?
                    Not sure where you got the numbers in your last sentence. The numbers you listed are closer to a 60-40 split which I think gets the fight done easily and is more the ceiling for a split than the floor.

                    For the record, I think the whole ratio to your average purse talk is garbage. That's not the way business works.

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                    • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                      Not sure where you got the numbers in your last sentence. The numbers you listed are closer to a 60-40 split which I think gets the fight done easily and is more the ceiling for a split than the floor.

                      For the record, I think the whole ratio to your average purse talk is garbage. That's not the way business works.
                      I got the numbers from Kev's post. Business works with how much you draw, how much you've drawn in the past is evidence of your appeal. Wilder is a nobody compared to Joshua. Don't talk about business when you haven't got a clue. In business something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. At the moment that's 12.5 mil for Wilder.

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