LOL! at Joshua vs Wilder $100m revenue projections

[pacmanis1]

Then maybe they need a venue change. AJ is a hustler, remember...

Surely the dude will fight in Vegas if it doubles his purse, right?

But we don’t know if fighting in Vegas will double it. Maybe it will, I don’t know. But putting AJ in the US for first time is a gamble when you know he draws in the UK.

What’s the avg start time for the main event 11 if they push it a hour or so that makes it around 7 pm Eastern time the usual start time for every night NFL, NBA , NHL game

There is no way this fight doesn’t surpass ggg/ Lemieux or GGg / Jacobs #s

But where is the fight being held then? If it’s in the US yeah I could easily see it doing better numbers then that, but if it’s in the UK you’re looking at an afternoon PPV fight which I don’t think will sell. And likewise how many people in the UK would stay up til 5am to watch this? Sure some would, but you’re definitely not getting as many buys as you normally would.

[R_Walken]

But we don’t know if fighting in Vegas will double it. Maybe it will, I don’t know. But putting AJ in the US for first time is a gamble when you know he draws in the UK.




But where is the fight being held then? If it’s in the US yeah I could easily see it doing better numbers then that, but if it’s in the UK you’re looking at an afternoon PPV fight which I don’t think will sell. And likewise how many people in the UK would stay up til 5am to watch this? Sure some would, but you’re definitely not getting as many buys as you normally would.

I’d assume the UK because it seems that’s what AJ wants

And this is pure Speculation on my part but AJ/Parker started at around 10:45 London time so around 2:45 West Coast 5:45 East Coast

If they pushed the starting time back about a hour and change to about 11:30 -12 when the fight kicks off in London it’d be around 6:30 -7:00 start in the East and 3:30-4 in the West

That doesn’t really inconvenience UK fans and that makes a starting time just outside of primetime in the East which is when most night sporting events happen anyways

So you could probably catch a large chunk of the audience. Obviously I have nothing to back up my claims and don’t know if it’d be a US PPV but think a fight of this magnitude that everyone involved would want every shekel they could get their hands on and that means a US PPV even with a abnormal start time ( just checked that seems to be the start time for Wrestlemania , which I think is a PPV ) so it’s not really unheard of to have a PPV at that time

[pacmanis1]

I’d assume the UK because it seems that’s what AJ wants

And this is pure Speculation on my part but AJ/Parker started at around 10:45 London time so around 2:45 West Coast 5:45 East Coast

If they pushed the starting time back about a hour and change to about 11:30 -12 when the fight kicks off in London it’d be around 6:30 -7:00 start in the East and 3:30-4 in the West

That doesn’t really inconvenience UK fans and that makes a starting time just outside of primetime in the East which is when most night sporting events happen anyways

So you could probably catch a large chunk of the audience. Obviously I have nothing to back up my claims and don’t know if it’d be a US PPV but think a fight of this magnitude that everyone involved would want every shekel they could get their hands on and that means a US PPV even with a abnormal start time ( just checked that seems to be the start time for Wrestlemania , which I think is a PPV ) so it’s not really unheard of to have a PPV at that time

But you’re just strictly talking main event. A lot of people aren’t going to pay 60-70$ for just a main event even though that’s all they care about.

As for Wrestlemania I live in the Midwest which is central time, so for me the pre show started at 4 and the actual show started at 6 but didn’t get done till after 11. I think best case scenario would be on CBS or FOX or something because then yes, I think you’ll get a lot of people tuning in. However I just see this as a very tough sell for a ppv with the time differential. Not trying to say this won’t sell or anything, but I don’t think US PPV is where you’re going to be getting a big chunk of money.

[R_Walken]

But you’re just strictly talking main event. A lot of people aren’t going to pay 60-70$ for just a main event even though that’s all they care about.

As for Wrestlemania I live in the Midwest which is central time, so for me the pre show started at 4 and the actual show started at 6 but didn’t get done till after 11. I think best case scenario would be on CBS or FOX or something because then yes, I think you’ll get a lot of people tuning in. However I just see this as a very tough sell for a ppv with the time differential. Not trying to say this won’t sell or anything, but I don’t think US PPV is where you’re going to be getting a big chunk of money.

I won’t disagree with anything you wrote

I just think ( uneducated opinion ) that a fight like this with the $ involved they’ll try and make it a US PPV and squeeze every red cent out of the fight , the bulk of the $ is coming from the Uk with their PPV & Gate , sponsorships , International Rights but even if this sells 100k ( no way in hell it does that ) that’s a extra 8 mil gross and 4 million take home thrown into the pot for essentially nothing i don’t think the parties involved are Going to complain about extra $ coming in.

[-Kev-]

Idk about $100 mill but if Joshua sold 400k ppv's with Whyte, and 1.5 million PPV's vs Wlad, surely Joshua vs Wilder sells 2 million PPV buys at 20 euros per PPV. Add in gate revenue, and it's a lot of money. That's around $50-55 million dollars combined, not even adding in US PPV sales which would be less because it costs more but still even 500k buys at $65 dollars per PPV you're talking about $32 million.

Add it all up and total revenue for the fight between UK/US ppv and gate it could be around $80-90mill+. So yeah, not quite $100mill projections and a lot of "IF's" involved, but damn near. If American fans take a liking to the fight and 500-600k people buy it, that's some serious money.

Which really makes the $12.5 million flat fee unrealistic and pretty ******. Pretty much ducking via incredibly low-ball offer.

[pacmanis1]

I won’t disagree with anything you wrote

I just think ( uneducated opinion ) that a fight like this with the $ involved they’ll try and make it a US PPV and squeeze every red cent out of the fight , the bulk of the $ is coming from the Uk with their PPV & Gate , sponsorships , International Rights but even if this sells 100k ( no way in hell it does that ) that’s a extra 8 mil gross and 4 million take home thrown into the pot for essentially nothing i don’t think the parties involved are Going to complain about extra $ coming in.

Haha touché, I also agree. It’s just a weird fight because in a lot of ways I don’t see how this fight couldn’t sell a million on US PPV if given a normal time slot. I mean both guys are personalities with questionable chins and unquestionable power. I don’t see how this fight doesn’t appeal to just causal sports fans, let alone boxing fans, with the right promotion. Yet at the same time Wilder has never caught on in the US like he should have and AJ is even more unknown. Worldwide this fight will make a lot of money, but it’s weird why it doesn’t appeal to more of America.

[R_Walken]

Haha touché, I also agree. It’s just a weird fight because in a lot of ways I don’t see how this fight couldn’t sell a million on US PPV if given a normal time slot. I mean both guys are personalities with questionable chins and unquestionable power. I don’t see how this fight doesn’t appeal to just causal sports fans, let alone boxing fans, with the right promotion. Yet at the same time Wilder has never caught on in the US like he should have and AJ is even more unknown. Worldwide this fight will make a lot of money, but it’s weird why it doesn’t appeal to more of America.

Agree with most of what you wrote


I can’t see this fight not ending in a Ko it has all the ingredients of a big cross over fight in the States but it won’t be

it’s just a matter of if AJ superior technique can over come Wilders freakish athletic ability and vice versa

If promoted I think this fight being between 2 unbeaten prime HWs with both possessing devastating power for all the straps can cross over to the casual fan base

I think part of the reason right now neither are US superstars is because the HW division was trash for so long and ruled by the Klits who had such a dog sh.it non fan pleasing style that’s it’s going to take a while for it to recover and have a cross over star
But in saying that Wilder might be the most popular American boxer right now and AJ is a superstar in the Uk but seems content to stay there at the moment . But to be a cross over star in the States you need to win big fights

This fight probably marks the beginning of a cross over star in the states and who ever is victorious raises their profile immensely and is probably on their way

[Madison Boxing]

Yeah I don't know where they pulled that figure from. It's not going to to do anywhere near that amount. Joshua gets big crowds and ppv buys regardless of his opponent in UK and wilder isn't a ppv attraction (or at all) in America. It might not even do any better than wlad v Joshua , wlad had a way better reputation and was.much more.known in the uk

[PensionKiller]

100 Million revenue isn't even what is used to split purses.

There are TV companies etc that take some chunk of the pie....

Although I don't think it generates 100 million revenue myself unless US people will buy it at 500k sales at 4 PM.

How much is a PPV? 70? so 35 mil will be from 500k sales. We really need 1 Mil sales

Distributor (HBO/Showtime) usually take 10%
Cable companies takes 45%
Promoter takes 45%

[bigjavi973]

more than Wilder that's for sure.

what ppv was it? i dont recall hbo or showtime having a ppv for aj