Comments Thread For: Team Wilder Plan Counter To $12.5 Million Flat Fee For Joshua

[killakali]

Lmfao. Guess we both right 😂

The point is u were taking the ceiling so I took the floor. Didn’t wilder say it’s not about the money? That’s why he wouldn’t fight Whyte for 4 mil almost double his career high payday ?

[killakali]

How is GGG a bigger name than Wilder? Explain the thought process behind that statement.

huh? Ggg has fought on three ppvs, headlining 2. Has higher ratings on hbo than wilder does on showtime and makes more money per fight than wilder. Sells way more tickets in the United States than wilder. Has more endorsements than Wilder and I haven’t even brought up his international presence or Jordan deal. I think that about sums it up.

Wilder has sold as many ppvs as you and I have 🤣

[zok310]

FACT: you make a " take it or leave it " offer, when you don't really want the fight..... and you negotiate in good faith, when you do..... just like they did with Parker lol

I like Joshua, and have defended him recently for a number of reasons

and I did that despite the fact my boy Parker was fighting him

but yea, Wilder obviously wants that fight more than Team Joshua do

no way should Parker make more money than Wilder, just because he is an easier/preferred opponent

the Joshua fanboys need to start keeping it real..... or else they will cushion their fighters opponent selection..... just like the golov-tards do for Hypekin

At the end of t he day Hearn is going to say "I offered Wilder 6 TIMES more than he has ever made and he didn't accept it....so here's Povetkin/Miller next." It's so damn obvious he doesn't want the fight next.

Why say take it or leave it if you're trying to negotiate? Why start at a position so unreasonable?

So we believe that Wilder is going to earn 12.5 million pounds (17 million us dollar) in his next 7 fights? Does Wilder have 7 fights left in him in this division?
When it comes to take it or leave it can we expect Hearn to roll over for Wilder if so why? Why should his rival make it easy for him?

Knew it would come to this, Wilder ***** his way out at every turn.

[7not8]

The point is u were taking the ceiling so I took the floor. Didn’t wilder say it’s not about the money? That’s why he wouldn’t fight Whyte for 4 mil almost double his career high payday ?

Yeah ur right, he did say it wasn't about the money so let's see how this thing plays out. But I do have to say that a 75/25 split is quite insulting if it is indeed 50mil and even worse at 100mil.

[killakali]

Where is the evidence of GGG making much more money than Wilder? Thought that part was interesting. Also curious about the much bigger name part.

You're exxagerrating about GGG. Wilder's live gates (he's cleared 12k tickets in his last two fights), ratings (1MM + views in his last two fights on premium cable), and purse ($2 million) shows he's the most popular US born guy right now. I guarantee you that the GGG May 5th fight doesn't clear 1 million views on premium cable (unless they force it on PPV, but I doubt it since it's already been moved to stubhub lol)

The reality is, Wilder is more popular than some here like to acknowledge. His social media following clearly shows that too.

wow u are so off. Ggg did over 1.3 mil rating vs Marco antonio Rubio of all people lol. He would do a million vs anyone.

Ggg made 3 million for Lemiuex and over 3.5 for Jacobs. Wilder hasn’t broke the 2.5 mil level.

Ggg sells out the forum and msg. 20k in the seats at the garden while wilder only fills 60% of Barclays including the thousands of giveaways pbc does at the Barclays.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Joshua and Hearn are clearly ducking the fight with an offer like that.

You wanted Manny to take Floyds flat offer.

[Butch.McRae]

wow u are so off. Ggg did over 1.3 mil rating vs Marco antonio Rubio of all people lol. He would do a million vs anyone.

Ggg made 3 million for Lemiuex and over 3.5 for Jacobs. Wilder hasn’t broke the 2.5 mil level.

Ggg sells out the forum and msg. 20k in the seats at the garden while wilder only fills 60% of Barclays including the thousands of giveaways pbc does at the Barclays.

You're making up numbers fam. Those purse numbers are blatant lies lol

[ShoulderRoll]

You wanted Manny to take Floyds flat offer.

Floyd could point to his history of selling PPVs in the US to justify that.

Joshua on the other hand? His last fight got lower ratings on US tv than an Erislandy Lara fight.

[killakali]

Yeah ur right, he did say it wasn't about the money so let's see how this thing plays out. But I do have to say that a 75/25 split is quite insulting if it is indeed 50mil and even worse at 100mil.

it should be close to what Parker got. Slightly more

[PBR Streetgang]

I think it's pretty obvious it's just posturing on Hearns part. See how desperate Wilder is to make the fight and how much they can win the negotiation. There are simple facts pretty evident that allow it all to make sense if you look at it unbiased:
Wilder needs Joshua more than vice versa. AJ makes alot more and has more options that will pack out thier stadiums. He can fight Povetkin, Miller, or even Fury and they will be huge events. Wilder had to take on a very dangerous, undefeated Ortiz to make a fraction of what AJ makes for fighting less. Wilder, while explosive, can look beatable in fights. Any present or future huge paydays for Wilder require him to fight AJ. The longer that doesn't happen the greater risk he suffers a hiccup and doesn't cash in proper. Very similar situation as Canelo/GGG. I don't think AJ or Hearn are afraid of Wilder, just like I don't think Canelo was afraid of GGG; the Wilder fight provides greater risks of losing just as the GGG fight did for Canelo. If the risk is greater and they have other options, they will try to maximize the benefit for them to make that fight.

I think it's truly a pick'em fight, it's just that Hearn and AJ have all the options and leverage and that's why we are seeing what we're seeing in the negotiation.