Why are Wilder's fans all of a sudden accountants?

[chrisJS]

i dont have fighters though....im a fan of many fighters when they earn my respect...the man in your avatar, which i know you are a fan, is one of my favorites.....

if i told you i was a fan of ward and said golovkin ducked him what would yous say? you would say the same old BS that you always spew

cept we know(because both sides confirmed)that ward contacted them and they said no....then ward went up in weight to face a tougher challenge for him twice.....

but you would make excuses for your crush...i dont have to make excuses

no one has been played....even AJs own fans are seeing the light....nothing he has said or done suggests he wants to make the fight......and many of them are admitting save for a few bot trolls that spew the same **** about "alabama fraud" over and over

were you played when golovkin said "164"?

you always play the "sat in in the meetings card"...which you had to pull cause i pulled your card about degale being available when they went with brook......thats desperation ....when you have to play the "sat in on the meetings card"

nobody here sits in on meetings...we read between lines and see black, white and gray...intelligent people do that sort of stuff....i realize its probably tough for you...but this is boxing where were fed tons of BS...if we didnt do that we could just deduce no guy ever avoided a fight ever

Joshua and his team have a generous offer that's been tabled. Wilder said he doesn't care about money, will go to the U.K and will take whatever he's given. Let's see how it unfolds. If the fight gets made they both wanted it if not then Wilder didn't want it. I think they will come to an agreement which suggests to me they want it.

Ward-GGG is also a boring discussion and there's two sides to it. Ward was in litigation then GGG had a unification fight signed and that's before they even got into purses. Then there's the HBO meeting where GGG said "Yes" and Ward said "not right now" or something. That got nowhere and would have been hard to negotiate. It's not surprising you only see one side - as usual. Just like GGG ducking DeGale when the promoter himself didn't offer it and has never claimed to have done so. Again, it's always the same.

[chrisJS]

i havent said a word about whether he should take it or not...cause honeslty IDGAF...i just want the fight made...but if he doesnt hes just doing best business for him

i just want the fight made

does mr "restraining order"? you know the guy who he and his promtoer complained to keep wilder from the ring? the guy thats talking povetkin? the guy that didnt want wilder around and then called his name when he knew he wasnt around?

You can spin it that way but others can spin it as they guy who was hired to commentate bailed on going over and talks all day and every day when Joshua has a fight signed but now is quiet there's an offer out there and no fight scheduled.

Again you'll only see one way predictably. I'll just wait for the fight to get signed and be proven right in my theory that they both want the fight and it will happen shortly.

[Curt Henning]

Joshua and his team have a generous offer that's been tabled. Wilder said he doesn't care about money, will go to the U.K and will take whatever he's given. Let's see how it unfolds. If the fight gets made they both wanted it if not then Wilder didn't want it. I think they will come to an agreement which suggests to me they want it.

Ward-GGG is also a boring discussion and there's two sides to it. Ward was in litigation then GGG had a unification fight signed and that's before they even got into purses. Then there's the HBO meeting where GGG said "Yes" and Ward said "not right now" or something. That got nowhere and would have been hard to negotiate. It's not surprising you only see one side - as usual. Just like GGG ducking DeGale when the promoter himself didn't offer it and has never claimed to have done so. Again, it's always the same.

the promoter didnt have to offer degale nor does he have to claim so...thats my WHOLE POINT! and i must have given you too much credit cause i thought you were intelligent enough to get that

degale is sitting there....and golovkin has eubank "lose his pen"....so why doesnt loeffler ask hearn about replacing him with degale? why does he instead accept hearn giving him a guy coming up two classes? LOL

youre still out here defending that? hahahaha

so this "meeting at hbo"?? you have a timeframe on that one? cause are you sure that wasnt when ward was known to be on the shelf?

when ward was free and ready to resume fighting he contacted them...and he didnt tell them to cancel his lemiuex uni fight....in fact he said nothing of the sort and suggested they meet in 2016 as ward contacted them in the last quarter of 2015

those are just facts confirmed by both parties

what you got?

[Curt Henning]

You can spin it that way but others can spin it as they guy who was hired to commentate bailed on going over and talks all day and every day when Joshua has a fight signed but now is quiet there's an offer out there and no fight scheduled.

Again you'll only see one way predictably. I'll just wait for the fight to get signed and be proven right in my theory that they both want the fight and it will happen shortly.

lol...we dont have to spin it any way...hearn and company went to sky and the british boxing board to make sure that wilder couldnt get in that ring

and getting in that ring was part of wilders deal with sky....once their part of the deal was off the whole deal was off...pretty simple

even british boxing fans couldnt defend that tactic..."the board wont let anyone in the ring after the fight for interviews"....yet somehow they let wlad up there though huh? funny how that works!

[chrisJS]

lol...we dont have to spin it any way...hearn and company went to sky and the british boxing board to make sure that wilder couldnt get in that ring

and getting in that ring was part of wilders deal with sky....once their part of the deal was off the whole deal was off...pretty simple

even british boxing fans couldnt defend that tactic..."the board wont let anyone in the ring after the fight for interviews"....yet somehow they let wlad up there though huh? funny how that works!

You have an unhealthy obsession with an average fighter from Kazakhstan. Way more than what Floyd and Pacquaio fans have with those fighters.

Joshua-Klit was already signed before that fight hence why they got in the ring and from my understanding it's in the British rules that they can do the face off when the fight is signed. Of course you don't hear that or see that.

Anyway fight will be signed soon and no more redundant and predictable ramblings from you on here. Hopefully Wilder accepts the offer now rather than stall it out.

[Curt Henning]

You have an unhealthy obsession with an average fighter from Kazakhstan. Way more than what Floyd and Pacquaio fans have with those fighters.

Joshua-Klit was already signed before that fight hence why they got in the ring and from my understanding it's in the British rules that they can do the face off when the fight is signed. Of course you don't hear that or see that.

Anyway fight will be signed soon and no more redundant and predictable ramblings from you on here. Hopefully Wilder accepts the offer now rather than stall it out.

UK fight podcasters were actually the ones pointing to the obvious hypocrisy of it....think they dont know the rules or what was/wasnt signed?

how come AJ was able to negotiate a fight with klit before the previous one started but couldnt do that with wilder?

[chrisJS]

UK fight podcasters were actually the ones pointing to the obvious hypocrisy of it....think they dont know the rules or what was/wasnt signed?

how come AJ was able to negotiate a fight with klit before the previous one started but couldnt do that with wilder?

I don't know. Maybe because Joshua fought a nobody so could be distracted that time and Klit was easy to negotiate with and this time he was fighting a unification with an unbeaten champion and Wilder and his team were going to be a much harder team to negotiate with? That's realistic.

Lol @ you wanting the fight. You'd much rather it not happen so you can point the finger and talk **** to fans because that's more your thing. I swear if Wilder was offered $50m and declined it you'd still blame AJ if he took $0 and you know it.

I'm more patient and more into the sport than the negotiations and trust and know the fight will happen. I think it could be a good fight but not one I'd feel compelled to travel further than Vegas for. It's important though and will come soon so happy about that. I'm sure this time next year you'll be saying how Joshua still ducked it though.

[Curt Henning]

I don't know. Maybe because Joshua fought a nobody so could be distracted that time and Klit was easy to negotiate with and this time he was fighting a unification with an unbeaten champion and Wilder and his team were going to be a much harder team to negotiate with? That's realistic.

Lol @ you wanting the fight. You'd much rather it not happen so you can point the finger and talk **** to fans because that's more your thing. I swear if Wilder was offered $50m and declined it you'd still blame AJ if he took $0 and you know it.

I'm more patient and more into the sport than the negotiations and trust and know the fight will happen. I think it could be a good fight but not one I'd feel compelled to travel further than Vegas for.

how would you know wilder isnt easy to negotiate with if you never even tried? isnt that realistic assumption? hearn had never made any offer previously so how would they know how difficult he is to talk turkey with? its also realistic to assume hearn could have had at least serious prelim talks in the event that AJ did win against parker if they really wanted to make the wilder fight next.....thats realistic too.....but instead he said just about anything but that

nice fake scenario backstory you created about wilder rejecting 50 mil and me defending it....thats always cute and shows you are clearly not desperate

i want the fight....id gladly take a walk from this place to have it signed ASAP...im not the one creating fake scenarios in an argument because i have nothing else to fall back on though

wilder negoatiated with sky to get in the ring...did sky not know about some rule preventing him from being able to do so? UK fight podcasters outed hearn over that

[R_Walken]

When the A side whether thats Hearn, Oscar or Mayweather offers a flat rate in the neighbourhood of 10-15% for the biggest financial fight their fighter has its a clear sign they aren’t trying to make the fight right now

Joshua Parker is worth a % but Wilder whos fight with AJ would be bigger isn’t

[STREET CLEANER]

Basically these crackhead fans have been saying AJ fans shouldn't be playing accountants when it was pointed out that Wilder demanded 50-50.

Predictably, these chicken heads are now turning around after AJ said he'll give him an offer "durrp, it has to be 40%+! otherwise Wilder is right not to take it".

Can't take you idiots seriously.

*** this damn place.

The Brits since the beginning have been hiding AJ behind finances.

This is prize fighting and some match ups fall apart from negotiations.