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  • Illmatic94
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    #121
    Originally posted by drunken fist
    What context are you looking for? Glen Johnson was undefeated when he faced Bhop. Not to mention, he got stopped. A guy with a granite chin got stopped. Most of Johnson's loses came from close decisions and robberies. The guy was never stopped again until the twilight of his career. Context is how fresh the opponent is and how impressive his performance during that fight.


    this is what I mean by context.

    this is Glen Johnson's resume prior to Hopkins.

    you know damn well GGG would get no damn credit beating a guy like Glen Johnson in this context. None.

    this is what you call a real can crusher. perfect example of a padded record.

    once again Hopkins escaped all this scrutiny because social media wasn't a thing.

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    • buge
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      #122
      Originally posted by Illmatic94


      this is what I mean by context.

      this is Glen Johnson's resume prior to Hopkins.

      you know damn well GGG would get no damn credit beating a guy like Glen Johnson in this context. None.

      this is what you call a real can crusher. perfect example of a padded record.

      once again Hopkins escaped all this scrutiny because social media wasn't a thing.
      Sam Garr was a killer doe, at 20-0 he had fought 2 guys with winning records

      and Bentley and Parker were undefeated ... oh, they were winless, nevermind

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      • drunken fist
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        #123
        Originally posted by Illmatic94


        this is what I mean by context.

        this is Glen Johnson's resume prior to Hopkins.

        you know damn well GGG would get no damn credit beating a guy like Glen Johnson in this context. None.

        this is what you call a real can crusher. perfect example of a padded record.

        once again Hopkins escaped all this scrutiny because social media wasn't a thing.
        GGG's resume would look better if the opponents he beat managed to accomplish something even after he beat them. So far, none of his opponents have done that. Closest thing was Lemiux that recently loss to Sanders. Kell Brook also lost to Spence.

        Trinidad after Bhop lost - retired for 2 years, then managed to win against the dangerous Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga then proceeds to win another title after his defeat to Tito

        Oscar De La Hoya - temporarily retired and also win a title against Mayorga after he returned.

        I'm not going to count his LHW reign since that is another topic. But that's another thing that GGG will doubtly accomplish.

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        • Illmatic94
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          #124
          Originally posted by drunken fist
          GGG's resume would look better if the opponents he beat managed to accomplish something even after he beat them. So far, none of his opponents have done that. Closest thing was Lemiux that recently loss to Sanders. Kell Brook also lost to Spence.

          Trinidad after Bhop lost - retired for 2 years, then managed to win against the dangerous Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga then proceeds to win another title after his defeat to Tito

          Oscar De La Hoya - temporarily retired and also win a title against Mayorga after he returned.

          I'm not going to count his LHW reign since that is another topic. But that's another thing that GGG will doubtly accomplish.
          theres no need to bring up LHW. this topic is comparing their reigns at 160.

          so all the "bums" GGG crushed would no longer be bums if they accomplish something in the future? that's really generous. once again I'll bring up Clinton Mitchell who beat Hopkins in his debut. Hopkins turned out to be a legend so Mitchell is TBE. i mean that's your logic.

          GGG would fold Tito in half at 160.
          Same thing happens to DLH.

          those are Hopkins notable wins in his reign. blown up welters that Golovkin would annihilate at MW.

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          • drunken fist
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            #125
            Originally posted by Illmatic94
            theres no need to bring up LHW. this topic is comparing their reigns at 160.

            so all the "bums" GGG crushed would no longer be bums if they accomplish something in the future? that's really generous. once again I'll bring up Clinton Mitchell who beat Hopkins in his debut. Hopkins turned out to be a legend so Mitchell is TBE. i mean that's your logic.

            GGG would fold Tito in half at 160.
            Same thing happens to DLH.

            those are Hopkins notable wins in his reign. blown up welters that Golovkin would annihilate at MW.
            Did Clinton Mitchell accomplish anything near Bhop as a boxer? You might as well crown Rustico Ocampo as one since he KO'd Pac when he was 16 years old. You like to talk about context, but your argument doesn't have one.

            GGG might KO De La Hoya, but even then, he's not a stiff target like usual GGG opponents. De La Hoya is a better boxer than Danny Jacobs or Canelo. Trinidad carried his power into 160. I mean he destroyed William Joppy more impressively than Bhop himself. And he's not flat footed like Lemiux either.

            Bhop was also a nobody until he beaten someone noteworthy. GGG's been spoonfed by HBO since he came to america.
            Last edited by drunken fist; 04-10-2018, 02:12 AM.

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            • stealthradon
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              #126
              Originally posted by drunken fist
              GGG's resume would look better if the opponents he beat managed to accomplish something even after he beat them. So far, none of his opponents have done that. Closest thing was Lemiux that recently loss to Sanders. Kell Brook also lost to Spence.
              What are the lottery numbers?
              Because you seem to be able to tell the future.

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              • drunken fist
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                #127
                Originally posted by stealthradon
                What are the lottery numbers?
                Because you seem to be able to tell the future.
                Sig my quote and let's take a bet with my points. If GGG's past opponents (Monroe, Murray, Lemiux or Wade) becomes a threat in any division, I'll give you all my points.

                Monroe and Lemiux lost to Sanders, Wade haven't fought ever since and Brook looks shot. Time will tell but until then, they are nobodies until proven otherwise.

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                • stealthradon
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by drunken fist
                  Sig my quote and let's take a bet with my points. If GGG's past opponents (Monroe, Murray, Lemiux or Wade) becomes a threat in any division, I'll give you all my points.

                  Monroe and Lemiux lost to Sanders, Wade haven't fought ever since and Brook looks shot. Time will tell but until then, they are nobodies until proven otherwise.
                  What do you mean threat?

                  How do you determine that Brook looks shot when he absolutely destroyed his opponent within 2 rounds?

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                  • stealthradon
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by drunken fist
                    Did Clinton Mitchell accomplish anything near Bhop as a boxer? You might as well crown Rustico Ocampo as one since he KO'd Pac when he was 16 years old. You like to talk about context, but your argument doesn't have one.

                    GGG might KO De La Hoya, but even then, he's not a stiff target like usual GGG opponents. De La Hoya is a better boxer than Danny Jacobs or Canelo. Trinidad carried his power into 160. I mean he destroyed William Joppy more impressively than Bhop himself. And he's not flat footed like Lemiux either.

                    Bhop was also a nobody until he beaten someone noteworthy. GGG's been spoonfed by HBO since he came to america.
                    Who in boxing today has a good resume according to you?

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                    • Graz
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Illmatic94
                      theres no need to bring up LHW. this topic is comparing their reigns at 160.

                      so all the "bums" GGG crushed would no longer be bums if they accomplish something in the future? that's really generous. once again I'll bring up Clinton Mitchell who beat Hopkins in his debut. Hopkins turned out to be a legend so Mitchell is TBE. i mean that's your logic.

                      GGG would fold Tito in half at 160.
                      Same thing happens to DLH.

                      those are Hopkins notable wins in his reign. blown up welters that Golovkin would annihilate at MW.
                      Agree. It’s funny when guys can’t criticize Golovkin’s record at MW they immediately discuss how he would handle a new division (LHW).

                      Hopkins knocked DLH out with a body shot. I think we know what would happen if he was on the receiving end of one of Golovkin’s liver shots.

                      Time will likely get to him as it does with every fighter but right now there’s nobody in the MW division that can beat Golovkin and it’s not even close. Two years from now it’s anybody’s guess.

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