Comments Thread For: Golovkin: I'm Ready For Anyone, Canelo's Issues Not My Problem

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I'm not one of these fools who is easily distracted by side arguments introduced to obscure the fact your initial post was idiotic. Back to point. Canelo has in no way been made a hero.

You loved criticizing Wilder when he took the late notice Areola. Now Golovkin is about to do the same thing and you hecklers can't deal. You're so immature you won't even acknowledge the parallel.

There is no parallel at all. Wilder pulled out then scheduled a different date for his (totally unrelated) next fight. Of all the available examples that's a pretty poor choice.

Golovkin hasn't pulled out nor postponed his scheduled date. They're just looking for a last minute substitute at a downsized venue 1 block away. Canelo's decision was beyond their control.

And I didn't remark much on the Arreola fight in general so this is moot. I actually think Arreola is overall a better opponent than, say, Stiverne.

What was your point again?

[Metho_4u]

Lol, yeah ready for anyone that's not a credible opponent.

Lol absolutely this... green k

[SkillspayBills]

Very interesting comparing the reactions to Povetkin vs Canelo on this website.

One needed to be beheaded and was a piece of **** intentional PED ***** spy and the other is basically treated as a hero for botching a big fight.

Povetkin has been popped TWICE for TWO DIFFERENT SUBSTANCES you subhuman.

[drunken fist]

so Hopkins gets credit for beating Glen Johnson because of what Glen accomplished almost a decade later? in that case Clinton Mitchell is the GOAT. he beat Hopkins in his pro debut and look how great Bernard turned out to be.

Tito was favorite because he was KO machine and Hopkins was a decision machine. Trinidad would've never been the favorite against GGG.

Jackson, Brown and Holmes are not much better than Murray, Jacobs and Lemeiux. let's be real.

Hopkins is one of the goats no doubt I grew up on him so I'm kinda biased when it comes to my childhood favorites but if we remove all emotion and nostalgia Hopkins reign is not much better than GGG's.

No, but it speaks volumes about his competition. If you think Glen Johnson and David Lemiux are close on levels, then you're wrong. Trinidad alone trumps whole GGG's career. GGG was always the favorite in his fights.

When was the last time GGG was an underdog? And when the time he steps up competition, he looks mortal, compared to Hopkins who outclass opponent who's favored to win. Hopkins looked dominant against top rated fighters while GGG struggled.

[RomanReigns]

No, but it speaks volumes about his competition. If you think Glen Johnson and David Lemiux are close on levels, then you're wrong. Trinidad alone trumps whole GGG's career. GGG was always the favorite in his fights.

When was the last time GGG was an underdog? And when the time he steps up competition, he looks mortal, compared to Hopkins who outclass opponent who's favored to win. Hopkins looked dominant against top rated fighters while GGG struggled.

Great posts.

[Illmatic94]

No, but it speaks volumes about his competition. If you think Glen Johnson and David Lemiux are close on levels, then you're wrong. Trinidad alone trumps whole GGG's career. GGG was always the favorite in his fights.

When was the last time GGG was an underdog? And when the time he steps up competition, he looks mortal, compared to Hopkins who outclass opponent who's favored to win. Hopkins looked dominant against top rated fighters while GGG struggled.

Context matters man. When Glen Johnson faced Bhop he was nobody. then almost a decade later he ices Roy Jones, a guy on the decline. and Hopkins resume gets enhanced by that? that's a tough sell.

and yea Tito was the favorite because like I said he was a KO machine and Hopkins was a decision machine. prime for prime Tito would not be a favorite vs GGG.

I give Golovkin constant sht for stalling his career chasing Canelo but his reign at 160 is just as good as Bernard. period. the Jacobs that showed up vs Golovkin I would favor vs Tito at 160. DJ came in super sayien shape and put in a career best performance. that guy would've been tough for anybody.

I grew up on Bhop so I'm usually biased due to nostalgia and emotion but I'm being factual here his reign wasn't really that great. go on Boxrec and read those names. all those guys would be called "bums" if they faced GGG.

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Context matters man. When Glen Johnson faced Bhop he was nobody. then almost a decade later he ices Roy Jones, a guy on the decline. and Hopkins resume gets enhanced by that? that's a tough sell.

and yea Tito was the favorite because like I said he was a KO machine and Hopkins was a decision machine. prime for prime Tito would not be a favorite vs GGG.

I give Golovkin constant sht for stalling his career chasing Canelo but his reign at 160 is just as good as Bernard. period. the Jacobs that showed up vs Golovkin I would favor vs Tito at 160. DJ came in super sayien shape and put in a career best performance. that guy would've been tough for anybody.

I grew up on Bhop so I'm usually biased due to nostalgia and emotion but I'm being factual here his reign wasn't really that great. go on Boxrec and read those names. all those guys would be called "bums" if they faced GGG.

What context are you looking for? Glen Johnson was undefeated when he faced Bhop. Not to mention, he got stopped. A guy with a granite chin got stopped. Most of Johnson's loses came from close decisions and robberies. The guy was never stopped again until the twilight of his career. Context is how fresh the opponent is and how impressive his performance during that fight.

How impressive Lemiux is compared to Johnson? Have he beaten a future HOFer like Roy Jones in an impressive fashion and win against the top LHW like Antonio Tarver? He couldn't even get the job done against Billy Joe Sanders and looked unimpressive against Marcos Reyes.

Some of Bhop's opponent were still top level even after he beat them.

Even the lost against prime RJJ was real close fight.

Call me when GGG have unified all the belts while breaking Bhop's title defense record (21).

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Povetkin has been popped TWICE for TWO DIFFERENT SUBSTANCES you subhuman.

How is that relevant to the initial reactions long before the ostarine test or Wilder's withdrawal, my genetically inferior forumite?

We aren't discussing the guilt of Povetkin/Canelo. We are discussing share of blame they received compared to their opponents.

Golovkin never pulled out of anything. Never had any control or direct involvement over any of this. He has an unchanged date he was already in camp for. He is showing up for it at a smaller venue. It is bizarre to act as if he orchestrated this in order to fight lesser competition or rip himself off. 90% of fighters would have bailed, sued and taken a vacation. They would be praised for sticking it out and fighting anyway regardless of the opponent.

Certain types of people aren't suited to algebraic logic. I don't think hours of walking you through it would result in any progress.

[Illmatic94]

Okkkkk you're bugging but I got some free time .
John David Jackson Glen Johnson, Félix Trinidad, Jermain Taylor, William Joppy, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones Jr!! Howard Eastman. I will also include Kelly even though that was an catch weight. That is an strong list!

Bhop just like Floyd and Andre ward are boxers who care about the end goal not just knockouts. Bhop would tell u to your face he's in there to win and to provide for his family. His style may not suit u , but he's an HOF and those names could probably give GGG an run for his money. So just stop it.

Glen Johnson was a nobody when he fought Hopkins. if that same version of Johnson faced GGG he'll be just another "bum" on the menu.

No version of Felix Trinidad beats GGG. hells no. Winky obliterated his ass with a jab. GGG has arguably the best jab in boxing and way more weapons behind it. Tito gets folded. and once again people would just say Tito was a small welter that GGG dragged up.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins twice. Why mention him. him vs GGG prime for prime is an interesting matchup. great fantasy fight.

William Joppy will be called a bum vs GGG. we know this.

DLH would be another small welter GGG dragged up. Hopkins escaped all these criticisms because social media wasn't a thing. and at 160 Oscar gets slept by Golovkin.

Roy Jones beat Hopkins. Why mention him. and prime for prime he beats GGG too.

Howard Eastman would also get the bum tag today. and I'll pick GGG over him any day.

Pavlik vs Hopkins was 170 catchweight. Hopkins whipped his ass like a slave. arguably his best performance. if Pavlik and GGG meet at 170 I'll probably favor Pavlik. so I'll give you that one. but we're strictly talking their reigns at 160.

Brook, Lemeiux, Monroe, Murray, Stevens, Jacobs. no that's not spectacular but it's solid. Hopkins reign was also solid. his biggest wins were two blown up welters. we know GGG would've got no credit for that.

again I'm a Bhop lifer. I grew up on him. putting emotion and nostalgia aside I'm just being honest.

[KillaMane26]

Be glad when yall guys realize some of these guys aint ducking nobody...just cant find right money to throw there guy in...lol. Im tired of hearing about guys being ducked when they havent even had a top 3 opponent yet