Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson: Joshua Not Impressive in Last Fight, Wilder Improving

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Travycat
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2015
    • 2289
    • 73
    • 0
    • 9,892

    #11
    Every person differs on who they think was the best, but my vote goes to Tyson in his prime. I don't think there's anyone that could've beaten a 21 year old Mike Tyson. His movement, 4 and 6 punch combinations with every punch having ko power. Had a great chin then. He was awesome to watch. 5'10 and he'd cut off the ring to guys a half foot taller. To me, he probably would've destroyed Wilder or Joshua in a few rounds back in 86-88.

    Comment

    • KnickTillDeaTh
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Feb 2011
      • 2098
      • 124
      • 7
      • 21,511

      #12
      Originally posted by Travycat
      Every person differs on who they think was the best, but my vote goes to Tyson in his prime. I don't think there's anyone that could've beaten a 21 year old Mike Tyson. His movement, 4 and 6 punch combinations with every punch having ko power. Had a great chin then. He was awesome to watch. 5'10 and he'd cut off the ring to guys a half foot taller. To me, he probably would've destroyed Wilder or Joshua in a few rounds back in 86-88.
      Ali would have destroyed Tyson, and Forman would have as well. Frasier is closer to Tysons height so that would have been a great match. Prime Hollyfield vs. prime Tyson, gotta go with the "head" on that one. You also have to remember that Tyson would have had a hard time with the shear size of some of these Heavyweights. I think Tyson was an overall better fighter than Vitali, but Vitali would have towered over Tyson, and kept him at bay with length, size and a power jab. So I'd have to fundamentally disagree with your assessment.

      Comment

      • PensionKiller
        Khan Kills Kell
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 9521
        • 224
        • 207
        • 18,489

        #13
        Originally posted by Illmatic94
        Why do AJ flunkies keep making fun of Ortiz age. Wlad is older and coming off an loss and two year layoff. And still managed to put prime AJ on his ass. he needed a war to survive the senile Wladimir. Pathetic.

        and the word "dominate" belongs nowhere near the AJ/Parker fight. It was a dull flat performance from both. Parker's feints kept AJ frozen and hesitant. and every time Parker even grazed his chin it affected him. When Wilder taps that spot AJ's chin gonna evaporate.
        For me the lack of PED is telling. People don't realise how effective even a 5% gain in cardio or better stamina etc... is at the top level.

        How often have fighters looked bad once they start being drug tested after being caught? Often quite bad.

        Comment

        • Ray*
          Be safe!!!
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Jul 2005
          • 44867
          • 1,654
          • 1,608
          • 558,890

          #14
          Originally posted by _original_
          I heard the interview, Tyson was being nice but you could tell doesn't think too highly of either guys. This guy's era included Larry Holmes, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Bowe, ect. so it's understable, probably views Wilder and AJ as bums.
          Yeah to be honest i feel the same way as Tyson does, i was watching some Holyfield, McCall and lewis highlighted a few days ago and i was just SMH at the current lot.

          The only thing is we are one fight away from having an undisputed champ at HW which is surreal.

          Not sure if the previous HW were on some type of endurance and high level drugs but they were very active in terms of punches thrown.

          Comment

          • Travycat
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2015
            • 2289
            • 73
            • 0
            • 9,892

            #15
            Interesting outlook. But that's what's fun about all of this, since we don't know factually, all our speculations are just that and make for interesting conversations about our opinions. So many different styles and fighters and eras. We've been lucky to see some amazing ones in our lifetime.

            Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
            Ali would have destroyed Tyson, and Forman would have as well. Frasier is closer to Tysons height so that would have been a great match. Prime Hollyfield vs. prime Tyson, gotta go with the "head" on that one. You also have to remember that Tyson would have had a hard time with the shear size of some of these Heavyweights. I think Tyson was an overall better fighter than Vitali, but Vitali would have towered over Tyson, and kept him at bay with length, size and a power jab. So I'd have to fundamentally disagree with your assessment.

            Comment

            • Dramacyde
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Dec 2016
              • 1442
              • 66
              • 0
              • 21,771

              #16
              Mike was lucky he was only convicted of 1 ****, everybody knows that man ****d more women than Harvey Weinstein & Bill Cosby put together

              Comment

              • Sledgeweather17
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2015
                • 3587
                • 154
                • 5
                • 34,855

                #17
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                Judges are probably worse in america. The referee wasn’t English, and agree he was awful - stopping both fighters getting their inside game working.

                I’m not sure who they would agree to referee wilder Joshua, I don’t think having an English ref would actually be a hinderance at all (I can understand 1 uk, 1 USA, 1 neutral judge). I suspect they would end up agreeing a neutral ref though - hopefully not a similar one!
                An English ref will stop the fight is soon as Wilder gets buzzed or dropped.

                Comment

                • BrometheusBob.
                  All Time Great
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 20457
                  • 915
                  • 1,915
                  • 156,555

                  #18
                  Whatever you need to tell yourself bro

                  Comment

                  • stellen
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1472
                    • 149
                    • 73
                    • 17,063

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                    An English ref will stop the fight is soon as Wilder gets buzzed or dropped.
                    Yeah hope we get a yank like david fields then. He let joshua batter klitsko to kingdom come and back before stopping that one.

                    Comment

                    • LetOutTheCage
                      Undisputed Champion
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 4314
                      • 163
                      • 314
                      • 47,581

                      #20
                      Joshua hasnt been impressive in his last 2 fights and Wilder should have been stopped in his fight. The current crop of heavyweights really isnt that good.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP