Why is boxing so watered down now??people wanna call fighters great wit no work

[BoxingIsGreat]

Loma doesn't belong on that list. He seems to be the only one from this group who is genuinely and fiercely seeking to fight everyone near his divisions. Loma loves to test himself. I've no doubt he'll fight Mikey next given the chance.

Mikey has a good resume, too, but lost a lot of time in his promotional dispute with Arum. Kovalev fought everyone he could fight except Stevenson.

The rest I don't care for-- no skills or personality.

[boliodogs]

GGG's best 5 wins in my opinion are a draw with Canelo, A close win over Jacobs. a KO of Lemieux, Murray and Brook. If Martinez, Cotto, Saunders and Eubank had fought him when they could have and should have I believe he would have KOed all of them. The hardest part for GGG has been getting other top middleweights to fight him. He has done very well under the circumstances. He has been a world champion for 8 years with 19 successful title defenses. If that isn't great then it's at least pretty damn good. Loma has an amazing amateur record and an equally amazing record for a pro with so few fights. He has defeated Rigo, Russell Jr., Martinez and is favored to beat another good champion in his third weight class. I believe he will be great.

[-Kev-]

In that group Lomachenko does have some good wins, I think he does have at least 5 guys worthy of mentioning.

Russell Jr
Rigondeaux
Walters
Martinez
Sosa

The rest in that list don't have 5 fighters worth mentioning.

[drunken fist]

Loma have a pretty good resume already. We are at the age of "Business" boxing where promoters would rather protect their cash cows than have them face the best fighters available.

[Teetotaler]

Left out spence and crawford #wakanda

[DreamFighter]

fringe fans interpret muscle and fat as boxing skill

[DreamFighter]

GGG's best 5 wins in my opinion are a draw with Canelo, A close win over Jacobs. a KO of Lemieux, Murray and Brook. If Martinez, Cotto, Saunders and Eubank had fought him when they could have and should have I believe he would have KOed all of them. The hardest part for GGG has been getting other top middleweights to fight him. He has done very well under the circumstances. He has been a world champion for 8 years with 19 successful title defenses. If that isn't great then it's at least pretty damn good. Loma has an amazing amateur record and an equally amazing record for a pro with so few fights. He has defeated Rigo, Russell Jr., Martinez and is favored to beat another good champion in his third weight class. I believe he will be great.

hes good but 19 defences/8 years, you having a laugh?

He won his first title vs danny geale (2014/15?)so hes still in single figure defences after 3 years of titling.

Still 3 years with 9 defences is not to sniffed at, thats excellent. no need to pad it up to 19. 3G doesnt need fakism, he will make it into double figures on his own without your fanfiction.

[R_Walken]

You can’t really call fighters great until their career is or almost wrapped up IMo

The sport is so f.ucked up , ruthless and unpredictable that’s it’s nearly Impossible to classify prospects as can’t miss because 90% of the time they miss

Almost all fighters don’t get their big career defining fights untill halfway through or on the back end of their career

Because of all the legends retiring in the last couple years Right now the P4P lists most guys are unproven and only starting or halfway through their career with the exception of GGg and Manny & Kov ( who shouldn’t be on it )

It’s mostly going off the eye test and potential to be great

[BattlingNelson]

I think it started with floydstans calling Mayweather the bestest eva.

[sunny31]

Its ****** to put Loma on that list, and to a lesser extent Joshua. Both are ahead of the curve of where you would have expected them to be at this stage. Normally guys don't fight for world titles until after 20+ fights, and that's if they have had a long amateur pedigree. Joshua has not.

Loma obviously was the real deal when he turned pro but still, the rate at what he has done things, who he has beat, and how he's beat them is pretty staggering.

Obviously people get over excited and now think Loma is the GOAT, and comparable to Floyd, Duran, or Pac. He's not - you have to learn to ignore these people.

Joshua has potential to carry the division in an exciting way, but again using some perspective, he isn't in the same league as the top 90s heavyweights like Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, and of course Lewis.

You have to let these careers play out and see where these guys get to, as someone already mentioned, this last couple of years has seen the ending ofva generation of top fighters, and these guys gave yet to prove, but there is time for that.