Replace Luis Ortiz with 90's George Foreman

[LacedUp]

NSB has told me that Ortiz is better than Klitschko, so how would Foreman do any different?

[Warrior Scholar]

NSB has told me that Ortiz is better than Klitschko, so how would Foreman do any different?

I wouldn't bet on Klitschko beating George.

[LacedUp]

I wouldn't bet on Klitschko beating George.

Of the 90s? Come on don’t be silly.

[Madison Boxing]

noone in history can beat ortiz apart from wilder. he proved how good he was by beating 45 year old thompson, stopping bryant jennings and going the distance with malik scott. hes a phenomenal fighter.

[LacedUp]

noone in history can beat ortiz apart from wilder. he proved how good he was by beating 45 year old thompson, stopping bryant jennings and going the distance with malik scott. hes a phenomenal fighter.

Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko.

[No punch power]

Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko.

But he is. Luis Ortiz also arguably punches much harder than Wladimir Klitschko too. Bryant Jennings ate pretty much all of Wladimir Klitschko's punches without even coming close to looking like getting stopped / KO'ed. In other words, he made Wladimir Klitschko look like he was a feather fist in there.

Yet, Luis Ortiz totally pulverized the same Bryant Jennings.

Luis Ortiz also counter punches much better than Wlad. Ortiz is a complete different animal to anything Wladimir Klitschko ever faced or beat.

An argument could be made that Wilder's one win over Ortiz alone, is better than any of Wladimir Klitschko's win in his entire career. And that could be the reason why Wilder may be the greater heavyweight than Wladimir Klitshcko.

[Madison Boxing]

Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko.

yeah, i cant be arsed to argue with them anymore, if they want to make out its some earth shatteringly amazing win they can. ive always said its a solid win but thats not good enough and i should give him more credit apparantly.

[iamboxing]

Foreman was an unstoppable mountain and only ever touched the canvas out of sheer exhaustion. Wilder has devastating power but Foreman also had an incredible chin.

[No punch power]

yeah, i cant be arsed to argue with them anymore, if they want to make out its some earth shatteringly amazing win they can. ive always said its a solid win but thats not good enough and i should give him more credit apparantly.

Who did Wladimir Klitschko ever beat in his career that is anywhere near the caliber of Luis Ortiz, or anywhere near as good as Luis Ortiz?

An argument can be made that beating an undefeated Luis Ortiz > Wladimir Klitschko who was already beaten and stopped multiple times before.

[Madison Boxing]

But he is. Luis Ortiz also arguably punches much harder than Wladimir Klitschko too. Bryant Jennings ate pretty much all of Wladimir Klitschko's punches without even coming close to looking like getting stopped / KO'ed. In other words, he made Wladimir Klitschko look like he was a feather fist in there.

Yet, Luis Ortiz totally pulverized the same Bryant Jennings.

Luis Ortiz also counter punches much better than Wlad. Ortiz is a complete different animal to anything Wladimir Klitschko ever faced or beat.

An argument could be made that Wilder's one win over Ortiz alone, is better than any of Wladimir Klitschko's win in his entire career. And that could be the reason why Wilder may be the greater heavyweight than Wladimir Klitshcko.

yeah i agree with you, ortiz beat jennings better than klitschko did so that makes him the greater fighter. it doesnt matter about any other achievements or the fact that wlad dominated the division for years and years, ortiz was better cause he stopped jennings and wlad couldnt. although chisora was better than ortiz cause he stopped malik scott and ortiz couldnt.