Comments Thread For: Joshua vs. Wilder Might Have Just Gone From Want to Need

[angkag]

I'm not sure I agree with the original posts sentiment.

Real boxing fans want this fight as it's a 50/50 fight at the moment.

AJ doesn't need this fight and his fanbase don't care about the fight. Most of his fans are not boxing fans they are Joshua fans and Hearn can keep convincing them that every fight is a stadium and PPV event.

Wilder needs AJ. He has nobody else out there he can make big money against.

Playing devils advocate here, AJ could fight anyone and make 20 million. He could milk this for another 2 years and if Wilder loses in that time AJ will continue to make big money for all involved. The person that beats Wilder may not be as dangerous a fighter to AJ as Wilder is, he could then beat them and get the belts.

Realistically the only way I can see this fight happening this year is if Wilder signs for less than a champion should be worth.

Unfortunately I suspect you are correct.

I got the impression the article was US centric, and correctly identifying that the US needs a big party. The UK just had the equivalent of an all-night rave so are more 'we just had a big party, what do you mean ?'.

With Joshua able to milk his status without Wilder, it leaves Wilder needing Joshua a lot more than Joshua needs Wilder (indeed, Joshua doesn't need Wilder at all).

I've got no doubts Hearn will be advising Joshua to duck Wilder this year, and probably next too, and only way it happens is if Joshua mans up to Hearn and tells him to make the fight regardless. And that might happen - lets see who really calls the shots between Joshua/Hearn.

[Bronx2245]

As much as I want to see Joshua vs. Wilder, I think Garcia vs. Lomachenko, or Spence Jr. vs. Crawford will be much better fights! I hope we get to see at least 1 of the 3 in 2018!

[A.K]

As much as I want to see Joshua vs. Wilder, I think Garcia vs. Lomachenko, or Spence Jr. vs. Crawford will be much better fights! I hope we get to see at least 1 of the 3 in 2018!

We aints seeing none of it B

[Boksfan]

Let's hope Wilder stops ducking and signs the contract. Man up Deontay, stop cherry picking and fight AJ!

[Bronx2245]

We aints seeing none of it B

That would suck! We gotta get at least one of them!

[Nomadic]

Lesson should have been learned from the Pac vs May! You let in marinate too long, you will spoil the meet! (meat)

[duwdu]

...I mock Wilder for ducking [Whyte] but Whyte doesn't beat him. He is too slow and predictable.

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Why would anyone insinuate Wilder ducked Whyte? Especially as it's believed Wilder would not have lost to Whyte, and Wilder next went ahead to fight Ortiz who Eddie Hearn made even Joshua duck? Would any normal person have bet Whyte over Ortiz, even now that Ortiz lost to Wilder by KO, and both Ortiz and Whyte are now off PED?

For Pete's sake, Wilder even accepted Eddie's taunts and agreed to fight Whyte anywhere, provided a victory in that fight would guarantee Joshua to him next. What else would anyone demand of Wilder in that sort of scenario?

Dear Boxing fans, please never fall for Eddie Hearn's shenanigans in all of this and other issues.

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[Deus]

Why would anyone insinuate Wilder ducked Whyte? Especially as it's believed Wilder would not have lost to Whyte, and Wilder next went ahead to fight Ortiz who Eddie Hearn made even Joshua duck? Would any normal person have bet Whyte over Ortiz, even now that Ortiz lost to Wilder by KO, and both Ortiz and Whyte are now off PED?

For Pete's sake, Wilder even accepted Eddie's taunts and agreed to fight Whyte anywhere, provided a victory in that fight would guarantee Joshua to him next. What else would anyone demand of Wilder in that sort of scenario?

Dear Boxing fans, please never fall for Eddie Hearn's shenanigans in all of this and other issues.

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That's completely untrue and you know it.

Ortiz didn't get a shot against Joshua because Hearn sacrificed bums to Ortiz to make him look good in order to build the fight (just as he has with Povetkin last weekend) but none of those fights were great at all. Ortiz whom is relatively unknown to the largely UK casual fan base was supposed to introduce himself with a showreel knockout (like Povetkin did!) during his time with Hearn then Hearn would have marketed the hell out of that and then profited from a fight that he's double dipping from.

Hearn's job is to make money, if he had an opportunity to make a lot of money out of Joshua v Ortiz then he would have, but he didn't.

Beyond that, yes Hearn obviously lies and makes things up because his job is to win public perception... the truth can get in the way of that. That applies to any other promoter and Wilder himself (considering he appears to be his own promoter these days).

[Thaman2x]

I find it completely and utterly amazing that people will accuse Wilder of Ducking anyone....When his last 3 attempts at fights have been Povetkin (killed), Ortiz (killed), Ortiz (KO). He has called and challenged all the TOP RANKED OPPONENTS in the HW division. People talk **** about Wilder's level of competition but won't admit to the fact that not everyone wants to fight him.

Yet, GGG's opposition has been **** up until Canelo due to people not wanting to actually get in the ring with him as well as not having much real opposition to begin with, and people recognize and acknowledge that. What's with the double standard?

In any case, the fight needs to happen. a 60/40 split is more than reasonable in favor of Anthony Joshua. Anything less than Wilder at this point, given the amount of public statements, ring statements, and overall publicity and buzz that this fight is beginning to generate, would be a DUCK by AJ.

It's true that AJ doesn't need Wilder, but Wilder needs AJ...With that being said, people justify the apparent desire of Team Joshua (inclusive of Hearn) to DUCK this fight. Ridiculous.

[Mike_R]

I completely agree with all of the sentiments here.

The potential for this fight getting spoiled before it ever happens is way higher than it might seem to some.

This fight could be incredible- 2 guys with major power and it's most likely the case that neither of them can take the other guys best shot.

They should make it now, make it while it's this big. Without Canelo vs. GGG on the calendar this is the biggest fight in the sport hands down.