Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker: Afterthoughts

[Illmatic94]

Afterthoughts: **** was trash.


The End.

[The plunger man]

I already said Joshua is the a side. We have no issue other than the fact the fight will generate more in Vegas than in Wembley.

If AJ wants the huge crowd and Wembley, ok his choice. If he wants more money, his choice.

I'm fine with anything so long as they fight next.

thats if the fight in vegas sells out and there simply is no guarantee that that fight will be a blockbuster in vegas.
And i guarantee you that if a 150k stadium was available in london that would also be sold out if joshua and wilder was made......it would be huge here and dont get wrong i grew up with the magical events of Hagler,leonard and tysons in vegas but at the moment those days are gone.... sad because nothing beats those days

[The Big Dunn]

thats if the fight in vegas sells out and there simply is no guarantee that that fight will be a blockbuster in vegas.
And i guarantee you that if a 150k stadium was available in london that would also be sold out if joshua and wilder was made......it would be huge here and dont get wrong i grew up with the magical events of Hagler,leonard and tysons in vegas but at the moment those days are gone.... sad because nothing beats those days

Dude its simple math.

AJ/Wlad live gate was about $9.9 mil US. Thats an average of $110 per seat.

Floyd /Canelo did $20 mil US. on 16, 146 seats an average of about $1,200 per seat, which is reasonable for Wilder/AJ unification. If that average drops to $600 per seat they will still exceed the wlad/aj live gate.

Vegas attracts a different breed of consumer willing to spend big money.

[The plunger man]

Dude its simple math.

AJ/Wlad live gate was about $9.9 mil US. Thats an average of $110 per seat.

Floyd /Canelo did $20 mil US. on 16, 146 seats an average of about $1,200 per seat, which is reasonable for Wilder/AJ unification. If that average drops to $600 per seat they will still exceed the wlad/aj live gate.

Vegas attracts a different breed of consumer willing to spend big money.

wilder is not mayweather and joshua is hot canelo how many times do you have to be told.......i could fly to the moon but its not going to happen.
There is no support for wilder to create that kind of revenue and then you also have to depend on PPV....no one knows wilder......1m views on free t.v with a population of 390 million so get a grip ......mayweather was a proven ppv draw and wilder is not even a free view draw.

[The Big Dunn]

wilder is not mayweather and joshua is hot canelo how many times do you have to be told.......i could fly to the moon but its not going to happen.
There is no support for wilder to create that kind of revenue and then you also have to depend on PPV....no one knows wilder......1m views on free t.v with a population of 390 million so get a grip ......mayweather was a proven ppv draw and wilder is not even a free view draw.

Again, showing you the math, not saying either guy is floyd or Canelo.

The bottom line is the average for Wilder/AJ in Vegas will be more than $500 per ticket easy. That alone will exceed the live gate for wlad/AJ.

If it has to be in Wembley, no problem. AJ's choice as he is the aside. I keep saying that.

Just don't use the revenue argument because it doesn't hold water.

[Jkp]

Find the footage, or provide a means of finding it (e.g. mention where you found it)

"apparently"s aren't much good to anyone these days.

Weird how ajs tape comes off every fight. Right when he's getting tired. But every other boxers tape it's fine.

[Redgloveman]

Weird how ajs tape comes off every fight. Right when he's getting tired. But every other boxers tape it's fine.

I take it you've got no footage to show us then?

[Just looking]

How about a legendary professional trainer like Emanuel Steward? He had a distinctly tall fighter in W. Klitschko and taught him to utilise a "jab and grab" strategy which made him one of the most dominant champions in HW history (albeit in a weak era).

There is a distinct difference between inside fighting and clinching.

If what you are saying was true then Steward would be negating his own fighter's physical attributes; in actual fact he recognised that Wlad could dominate most of his opponents using his height and strength in the clinch whilst negating their inside game.

Parker was the smaller fighter and so had to get past Joshua's reach, but once a clinch is engaged the bigger/stronger man's strength is going to take its toll on a smaller/weaker fighter as the fight progresses. How many times have you seen HW's lean on their opponents? I've seen it a hell of a lot. See Tyson Fury's knockout of Steve Cunningham for a perfect example of how a bigger man imposes his strength on a smaller one in the clinch.

Again, Tyson is the prototypical short fighter, his inside game was 10/10, but see how Holyfield tied him up and frustrated him in the clinch.

The ref did not (and could not under the rules) break up the fighters when they were fighting inside - only where they were clinching, which is exactly where the bigger man's strength will come into play.

So, in summary, yes. Parker did need to get inside Joshua's reach to win the fight - but ideally he needed to get in and out again. The referee did not stop him from working inside, he stopped the fighters from wrestling in (and fighting out of) clinches, both of which would have favoured the bigger fighter.

To start with, the ref was stoping while Parker was landing shots.
About in-fighting: a good in-fighter have the tools to work his way out of a clinch, those who knows how to use their heads and shoulders to control the opponent don't really have to fear the opponent leaning on them, I'm sure some people tried this tactic on Duran.
Last, Mike Tyson wasn't that good at in-fighting even though he was deadly at close-quarters. A 10/10 of in-fighting would be Duran, his head and shoulder control and tactile reflex were way above what Tyson ever had, not to talk about the shovel hooks that I hardly saw Tyson using

[Jkp]

I take it you've got no footage to show us then?

Watch the replay on YouTube

[Redgloveman]

Watch the replay on YouTube

So we've gone from "apparently there's footage which Hearn has stashed away in 'his safe'" to

"watch the replay on Youtube"


Look, I'm not an AJ nuthugger, but you should at least come up with something credible