Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker: Afterthoughts

[The plunger man]

Again, showing you the math, not saying either guy is floyd or Canelo.

The bottom line is the average for Wilder/AJ in Vegas will be more than $500 per ticket easy. That alone will exceed the live gate for wlad/AJ.

If it has to be in Wembley, no problem. AJ's choice as he is the aside. I keep saying that.

Just don't use the revenue argument because it doesn't hold water.

the revenue doe's argument does hold water because its nit just abiut fight ticket revenue....its about ppv revenue as well....wilder is not a ppv fighter and is not a household names in the states and joshua is still to break through so how are people going to fork out the 70 dollars that the networks usually charge .....there is over 2 million buys in the uk for joshua fights.....wilder has only 1mil views on a free channel so your maths dont add up to beat the revenue that will be made in london wembley......and trust me the tickets if they reallly wanted to could double the price in the uk and people would pay it....joshua is a phenom over here and sells more ppv and more venue tickets so the fight will be over here.

[Jkp]

So we've gone from "apparently there's footage which Hearn has stashed away in 'his safe'" to

"watch the replay on Youtube"


Look, I'm not an AJ nuthugger, but you should at least come up with something credible

Its a fact his tape comes off on more than 1 occasion. MY credibility is irrelevant when its on screen for everyone to see, and happens in several fights, bit no one else has an issue with tape, and it only happens when AJ gets tired.

Pretty sure your hugging those AJ nuts nice and close.

[keith_head]

Referee was awful, but, realistically, infighting is always more likely to be effective for the stronger, bigger fighter, i.e. Joshua.

I don't think you can really make the argument that not being able to fight on the inside particularly hurt Parker's chances in the fight - if it hurt anyone it probably hurt Joshua, imo, because he couldn't exploit his size advantage. We've all seen Lewis and Klitschko and Fury lean on smaller fighters and drain them of their energy; it would have been very easy for Joshua to do that to Parker.

I agree with you in the sense that the referee never really allowed a fight to break out (which lead to it being a fairly drab spectacle), but he took more away from Joshua than Parker imo, so I don't think you can use that as a way of taking credit away from Joshua's performance. He got the job done in boring fashion.

How about a legendary professional trainer like Emanuel Steward? He had a distinctly tall fighter in W. Klitschko and taught him to utilise a "jab and grab" strategy which made him one of the most dominant champions in HW history (albeit in a weak era).

There is a distinct difference between inside fighting and clinching.

If what you are saying was true then Steward would be negating his own fighter's physical attributes; in actual fact he recognised that Wlad could dominate most of his opponents using his height and strength in the clinch whilst negating their inside game.

Parker was the smaller fighter and so had to get past Joshua's reach, but once a clinch is engaged the bigger/stronger man's strength is going to take its toll on a smaller/weaker fighter as the fight progresses. How many times have you seen HW's lean on their opponents? I've seen it a hell of a lot. See Tyson Fury's knockout of Steve Cunningham for a perfect example of how a bigger man imposes his strength on a smaller one in the clinch.

Again, Tyson is the prototypical short fighter, his inside game was 10/10, but see how Holyfield tied him up and frustrated him in the clinch.

The ref did not (and could not under the rules) break up the fighters when they were fighting inside - only where they were clinching, which is exactly where the bigger man's strength will come into play.

So, in summary, yes. Parker did need to get inside Joshua's reach to win the fight - but ideally he needed to get in and out again. The referee did not stop him from working inside, he stopped the fighters from wrestling in (and fighting out of) clinches, both of which would have favoured the bigger fighter.

Lol no. nope. nah.

[Marvlus Marv]

It looked to me like Parker was boxing not to get knocked out rather than to win. He even said in his post-fight interview

"I didn't go down, did I?"

Having said that, I would mention that Parker seems like a genuine and down-to-earth guy after the interview. He didn't make any excuses or blame his elbow surgery etc. etc.

I think Joshua was content to box to a straightforward win rather than put himself in danger trying to knock Parker out. He was putting himself into positions to unload on Parker without ever really being willing to let his hands go. Probably due not trusting his own gas-tank

I agree with Butch that you can't really hate on Joshua's record given where he is after 22 fights. I do believe him when he says that he wants to unify.

If the fight with Wilder doesn't happen then we can talk about ducking etc. etc. I think it'll happen within 2 fights if not next.

A few days old now, but what you say is about right. Parker did have a good go at times and he does seem like a stable and genuinely likeable guy. I guess it's the disappointment that comes with an anti-climax of a fight. It's a pain in the asss to accept that boxing has changed, in that fighters are far less inclined to take risks and leave it all out there like they used to. The fighter has become the health conscious, PR savvy businessman.

[Jkp]

I take it you've got no footage to show us then?

Here you go knob head....

https://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-...imeout--126893

[Jkp]

I take it you've got no footage to show us then?

Found it for you...

[KillaCamNZ]

Joshua should fight Wilder next but won't. He'll continue to pad his record making millions doing it. Can't blame him, in the end it's all about the money. Why risk this undefeated record against a murderous puncher like Wilder when he can continue to fight powderpuff opponents. I'd love to see him fight Ortiz but that won't happen either. In my mind Wilder is taking on all comers while Joshua is cherry picking opponents

This would make sense if the reality weren't the exact opposite. You may as well just come out and say you're a flat out ****ing idiot. It would save you beating around the bush.

Joshua has achieved more, in half the fights Wilder has.

[Redgloveman]

Here you go knob head....

https://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-...imeout--126893

Looks like Joshua trying to pull loose tape off his glove and then showing the referee the loose tape.

Try to calm down. I think I'm right in thinking you're a Parker fan? He got his shot, he wasn't good enough. Try to grow up.

[bluemax]

This would make sense if the reality weren't the exact opposite. You may as well just come out and say you're a flat out ****ing idiot. It would save you beating around the bush.

Joshua has achieved more, in half the fights Wilder has.

Who of note other than a smaller guy, Parker has he fought?? Martin? LOL! An already beaten 41 year old ex champion coming off a 18 month lay off and having to get off the floor to do it? Who???