Comments Thread For: Andrade To Golovkin: No Steroids Here - Why Not Fight The Best?

[Chuckguy]

that fanboy clown is talking utter rubbish

they could simply defer the fight..... like anyone else would..... like has happened previously on NUMEROUS occasions

a mando is LITERALLY the only thing that could force Golovkin to ever fight a meaningful opponent..... as we saw with Jacobs the WBA mando

Team Bullshht are taking the opportunity to fight yet another no-hoper..... just like always, right on cue

Gennady is not about that life, they are ALL about risk/reward

he is a protected network darling

NO, I am not a hater..... YES, that has been obvious since 2012

I have nothing against your post. I’m just curious how you feel about Floyd cause he did the same fawking thing

[aboutfkntime]

Sorry man but This whole Post is full of revisionist history , wishful thinking and straight up f.ucking lies

First off I’m not going to say these were ducks or these fighters were scared but their teams decided to take on less risk for more $ and I can’t blame them

Martinez - you say Gennady / Canelo was a cash out well Martinez / Cotto was a cash out everyone knew that was probably be his last fight so him saying he’ll fight GGg after is irrelevant they chose Cotto a small 154 who’s bring more $ to the table. When people questioned Di Bella he said something like I’m not going to make a fight that 10 people on the internet want to make translation - I’m not going to get my fighter murdered for not a good payday. They never wanted it with Gennady

Cotto - there was never a intent to fight Gennady. Cotto signed with the Roc a 3 fight deal. 1st fight a layup against Geale then a $ fight against Canelo then a possible rematch l. Gennady was never on the table because Canelo would be a easier fight and brought more $

Canelo - dropped his belt and his team waited years in hopes that Gennady gets old before they fought

Quillen - basically said he would fight Gennady if it was a big fight like May/PAC or for some unreachable number like 5-10 million

Sh.it even. Barkers team when he got the strap was offered a ggg fight to unify and Gennady would have fought for free and they turned it down

Saunders said for years he wasn’t ready and he wasn’t now he is and hopefully in the next year they fight. I agree they made a excuse about $ when they made the Brook fight.

Any other MW during this time that had any clout or name recognition ( Geale , Murray, Rubio ) got beat down already

Like I said the MW division was a wasteland for years with only a couple of decent fighters when none of them want to fight you can’t do much Cept beat on scrubs

Golovkin had PLENTY of opportunities to improve his resume

he rubbished Mora for being irrelevant, and not being a big draw
..... but then he fought someone MUCH worse

he rubbished Lara for being irrelevant, and not being a big draw
..... but then he fought someone MUCH worse

he rubbished Cotto for demanding a catchweight
but then offered Rosado a catchweight, and demanded one from Ward

and what about the Ward debacle lol?..... I noticed you forgot to mention that..... and yes, that does count..... because, all of that smack talk and bullshht

Martinez was a G..... neither you - nor the unproven Golovkin - had any right whatsoever to question his word/credibility

and you attempting to convince me that those guys did not really want it, when Golovkin had an opportunity to fight them but refused..... is a little silly

Golovkin is 100% responsible/accountable for his resume..... just like every other fighter, EVER!!

[aboutfkntime]

I have nothing against your post. I’m just curious how you feel about Floyd cause he did the same fawking thing

not really interested in a change of subject tbh

but yea, he really didn't

that is just nonsense that is repeated by haters/Pac fans

I will ask, who did he miss ?

you will say..... well nobody really, but he waited for those guys to get old..... I will then prove that Mosley and Cotto both turned down Floyd TWICE, and that Arum/Pac intentionally delayed that fight until the Manny-cow had been milked dry

he really didn't

mostly, you had to actually do something to land a Mayweather fight

[R_Walken]

Golovkin had PLENTY of opportunities to improve his resume

he rubbished Mora for being irrelevant, and not being a big draw
..... but then he fought someone MUCH worse

he rubbished Lara for being irrelevant, and not being a big draw
..... but then he fought someone MUCH worse

he rubbished Cotto for demanding a catchweight
but then offered Rosado a catchweight, and demanded one from Ward

and what about the Ward debacle lol?..... I noticed you forgot to mention that..... and yes, that does count..... because, all of that smack talk and bullshht

Martinez was a G..... neither you - nor the unproven Golovkin - had any right whatsoever to question his word/credibility

and you attempting to convince me that those guys did not really want it, when Golovkin had an opportunity to fight them but refused..... is a little silly

Golovkin is 100% responsible/accountable for his resume..... just like every other fighter, EVER!!

First off I agree with you about Golovkins had multiple chances to improve his resume but the last year him fighting Jacobs and Canelo I don’t think you can say he won’t fight the best. But he was avoided by the big names at MW ( because they had easier fights with better financial options) for years that’s partially the reason his resume is lacklustre

I’m a GGg fan but since I’ve been on this site I’ve been critical of him and his team for various reasons like

- not pursuing a Saunders fight and instead fighting Brook

- fighting Wade / Monroe while not entertaining the idea of fighting Lara when he called him out

- how and who he faced getting his 3 straps

Sergio was a G But you can’t deny his team didn’t want that fight. At that point in Martinez’s career he made it clear he wanted ( and deserved big $ fights ) Gennady at the time didn’t offer that. What Gennady offered was most likely a f.ucking savage beat down for little $. It’s no wonder and don’t fault his team for picking Cotto a star in the sport who many had written off at that point and a chance at a decent payday. But at time in Sergio’s career they wanted no part of Golovkin ( shi.t Martinez barely survived Murray) that’s the truth

As far as the Ward situation I’ve already stated I don’t blame Gennady or his team. HBo at the time had 4 notable P4P fighters spread over 4’divisions ( Canelo, ggg, Ward , Kov ) and were going to match at least some of them up because that’s the only decent fight HBo had going for them

Ward wanted a ggg fight because it was lower risk and probably bigger financially ( Kov can’t draw flies to sh.it ) GGg team didn’t pursue that fight because they had their eyes on Canelo and had put their self in a Mando position who was also a lower risk and a way bigger payday. When it was clear ggg didn’t want Ward he moved up and fought Kov in 2 PPV that underperformed but cemented his fate as a great . GGg waited and eventually got Canelo and it did huge buys and made crazy cash. Any team would have done the same thing

Neither men were scared of each other both are P4P Champs , straight Gs unbeaten for over a decade neither are b.it hes and would have fought each other if it was the best available option . but from a financial point GGg and his team made the right decision . In all honesty I’ve always said if Gennady fought Ward he probably loses most fans / boxing experts would probably agree and a PPV between the 2 probably does slightly better then Ward / Kov. legacy wise it’s a Way better fight but legacy don’t buy groceries when you’ve retired being involved in a PPV that did 1.3 million does with a rematch until Canelo f.ucked that up

I would expect Gennady to fight Saunders relatively soon since this Canelo fiasco . So if he does that and wins he’ll have got all the straps fought the 3 best MW and cleared out the rest of the division ( with the exception of the young guys making noise Charlo , Andrade , Devechenko ) you can’t knock that

Saying all that, back to the original topic of the thread and that is while it’s a good fight for boxing fans fighting Andrade who brings nothing to the table isn’t worth it l. It’s real f.ucking risky and he still has a potential big $ Canelo rematch or Saunders for all the straps. Both fights bring more to the table legacy wise and financially then a Boo Boo fight who at this point is irrelevant.

Sorry for the f.ucking novel

[aboutfkntime]

First off I agree with you about Golovkins had multiple chances to improve his resume

then lets leave it there, because that is all I am saying

he could have fought better opponents, but he chose not to

no point in blaming someone else

the excuses they gave for Mora/Lara were absurd, and disgraceful..... and totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the 153lb SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto, tells the WHOLE story if you prepared to be honest about it..... because he offered Rosado a catchweight, and Rosado is NOT a SUPERSTAR

you GGG fans should NEVER mention Andre Ward EVER again

that is why he gets no slack from critics

IF Gennady is ever going to take the world by storm, like he promised.... then, when?..... how will this big drama show happen, with no drama?..... he is about as risk-averse as you can get, and is the very dictionary definition of a protected fighter