Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua NOT His Own Boss or He Would Accept The FIght!
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Interesting topic.
Someone who is an employee yet is paid far more than someone who is the boss.
Outside of the US and hardcore boxing fans nobody knows who Wilder is.
To the fans of AJ who, in general are cross over fans they have no idea who anyone else is in the heavyweight division. Parker was a champion so on paper he is as much of a legitimate challenger as Wilder.
They don't see how thin the division is and if he's fighting top 10 people he will sell out stadiums and do well on PPV.
It's similar to the rabid Tyson fans who are convinced he was the best heavyweight ever and that nobody would have beat 'Prime' Mike Tyson. Real boxing fans know that he was an exciting fighter, probably the most exciting but only around 8-15 in the all time heavy rankings.
This is how AJ will be remembered by the cross over fans. Even if he loses now they will be convinced that in his peak he would have beaten everybody and whoever beat him was lucky they fought him when he had 'aged', 'fell out of love with boxing' etc.Comment
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The Pavlik fight would have been at Lightheavy because Joe wasn't going to go back down again. No one would have gave him any credit for the win and would have accused him of ducking Jones. Plus, the Jones fight offered more money. It's a no brainer.
It was the other way round. Vitali told Haye to fight and beat Chisora if he wanted to fight him for the WBC title (Which he did) Then turned around and fought a bum instead in Charr. Haye after the Chisora fight even said Vitali would duck him and fight a nobody instead. So you're completely wrong there.
When you go round calling fighters like Foreman, Frazier, Marciano, Patterson, Dempsey etc etc ATG's then you lose all credibility. They have **** resumes that are so thin it's ridiculous. None of them are close to being great fighters, let-alone ATG's.
Your precious Ali fought in the most overrated era in history. None of the fighters were above average. Just bland and basic.
Not only that, but he lost all 3 fights against Norton but got gifts in 2 of them. Lost to shavers, got a gift there. Lost to Young, got another gift there. Loosened the ropes against Foreman to gain an advantage which is cheating, so I don't give him any credit for that either. Throw in the fact he lost badly to a bar-room brawler in Frazier and what you have is the single most overrated fighter in history. In fact, i'll go further... Ali is the most overrated athlete in sporting history. There was nothing great about him.
In fact most of your "ATG's" are not great at all. The most horribly overrated fighters from a country that spews this garbage is nothing more than propaganda. And then goes on to spew their poison against overseas fighters and never gives them credit. So shove your so called ATG's up your arse.Comment
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Oh god. Just what we need. An internet fan with absolutely no insight, absolutely no possible way to know if what they are saying is true, yet making authoritative declarations anyway. This should be fun.
Wrong. Finkel and Deas don't have the legal right to block Wilder from taking a fight.
Wrong. Haymon is an adviser. He works for Wilder. He isn't Wilder's boss. Please stop posting false information.
Haymon has the exclusive right to approve Porter and Trout opponents because Porter and Trout signed Haymon's standard deal. Haymon's arrangement with Wilder is different.Comment
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Someone who is there "own boss" doesn't have or need three managers and advisers. Just like Floyd who is his "own boss" just has Haymon. Period. Point. Blank.
Now, for a lot of Haymon's fighters, Haymon has the legal right to block an opponent. This is what's allowed Haymon to create his own universe, knowing he can legally keep things in house in most instances.
Wilder is in a different situation though. He was with Finkel first and had the leverage to not have to sign Haymon's standard deal. When Finkel was trying to set up Wilder vs. Klitschko, Haymon didn't have the legal right to block it.
When Wilder demanded King Kong, Haymon was against it, but it's what Wilder wanted, so Haymon delivered. Haymon didn't have the legal right to stop it, but he did the responsible thing and went out and signed King Kong to protect everybody's interests.
AJ makes way more than Wilder, so I'm not criticizing AJ for choosing to sign exclusively with a promoter. But Wilder is still telling the truth that nobody on his side can block him from fighting AJ, while Hearn can block the fight if he wants to. Obviously is AJ is adamant about wanting the fight, Hearn wouldn't block it, but that doesn't change the fact that he legally could.Comment
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