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    #121
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
    Instead of running to the media that can't do much to make the fight, put pressure on team wilder to go sit on the round table with barry/eddie.
    Wilder doesn't have the right to want the fight immediately, he will have it when the A side say so.
    Public pressure is Wilder's best chance to get the fight ASAP.

    Hearn can only stall as long as he can convince AJ's fans that the delays aren't AJ's fault. So Wilder has to be beating the drum to spread the word that he wants the fight ASAP.

    Wilder has the right to want whatever he wants. AJ has the right to say no. But if the question is whether Wilder wants the fight or not, he definitely does. Obviously AJ has the right to take his time.

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    • TexasCowBoy
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      #122
      Originally posted by Muz
      Never seen a bigger liar and hypocrite since Floyd Mayweather, and I suspect Haymon is coaching Wilder with this agenda.

      First of all, Wilder is not a boss, he has four managers who in his ass:

      Haymon
      DiBella
      Finkel
      Deas

      Wilder has been paid out of the PBC war chest for years, and these four idiots want their money because that war chest is spent and long gone. Wilder playing the fool for these men. The fools who believe anything that comes out of Wilders mouth, refer back to his resume. All bums. All hand picked employees of Haymon. It's no wonder Wilder turned down 4 million to fight Whyte to fight Ortiz for $2 million.

      People need to have some knowledge and call out a rat coward puppet when they see one. Wilder is a house boy and playing the good boy for Haymon deas finkel and dibella while the fans Are subjected to www hype.
      Excellent comment and very well dissected

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      • daggum
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        #123
        this is what happens when you grow up and floyd is your idol. you start repeating things he said cept you don't quite know how to use them properly...

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #124
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Public pressure is Wilder's best chance to get the fight ASAP.

          Hearn can only stall as long as he can convince AJ's fans that the delays aren't AJ's fault. So Wilder has to be beating the drum to spread the word that he wants the fight ASAP.

          Wilder has the right to want whatever he wants. AJ has the right to say no. But if the question is whether Wilder wants the fight or not, he definitely does. Obviously AJ has the right to take his time.
          It's okay... Let's hope the tactics work cos I also want the fight as well.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            It's okay... Let's hope the tactics work cos I also want the fight as well.
            I am not anti-AJ. He is a great fighter. He's the unified heavyweight champion. Total respect to him. But clearly it's in his best interest to delay a Wilder fight. And he should delay it. He'd be an idiot not to. Fighting Wilder before Parker would have been idiotic.

            The problem is that AJ's obsessed fans don't want to believe that he'd ever avoid or delay a challenge. AJ is their hero. So they have to convince themselves that Parker is more dangerous than Wilder, Wilder doesn't want to fight, etc etc. Anything other than the truth, which is that AJ is the cash cow and the cash cow doesn't rush into the most dangerous fight.

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #126
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              I am not anti-AJ. He is a great fighter. He's the unified heavyweight champion. Total respect to him. But clearly it's in his best interest to delay a Wilder fight. And he should delay it. He'd be an idiot not to. Fighting Wilder before Parker would have been idiotic.

              The problem is that AJ's obsessed fans don't want to believe that he'd ever avoid or delay a challenge. AJ is their hero. So they have to convince themselves that Parker is more dangerous than Wilder, Wilder doesn't want to fight, etc etc. Anything other than the truth, which is that AJ is the cash cow and the cash cow doesn't rush into the most dangerous fight.
              Well, I share in your sentiments. We as fans want the fight but the promoters look more on the financial implications. It's a contrast interest from fans/promoters.
              I hope they can see reasons to balance both and give us the fight.
              On the other hand, I am just thinking, after AJ/wilder 1 and 2, maybe for example, same fighter won both contest, what will become of the HW?

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                #127
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Mayweather
                Charlo twins
                Porter
                Thurman
                Santa Cruz
                Bradley
                Andrade
                Wilder
                Warren
                Jones
                Hopkins
                Foreman
                Moorer
                Tyson
                Quillan
                D. Garcia
                M.Garcia
                Davis
                Vivian Harris
                McKinney

                And that's just off the top of my head.

                Who did Calzaghe, AJ and Haye duck??

                We've got more balls than Americans will ever have. You live in the land of cowards and drug cheats.

                calzaghe ducked froch and pavlik

                haye ducked vitali


                and don't forget its also the land of all the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.

                no Brits in the convo
                Last edited by bluebeam; 04-03-2018, 11:10 PM.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  False. Eddie Hearn has the exclusive right to determine who AJ fights. If AJ wants to fight Wilder and Hearn says no, Hearn can block the fight.

                  Wilder can fight whoever he wants. He has a manager and adviser that guide him, but if he wants to fight AJ, nobody from his side can stop him.
                  false. Wilders managers have to approve. Lou dibella doesn’t but Haymon is Wilder’s boss. If Haymon doesn’t offer him a fight then Wilder sits on the sidelines. Just like how Shawn Porter and Austin Trout complained about not getting fights and they are only signed to Haymon.

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                  • Kezzer
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                    #129
                    Don't bother talking to wbc WBO IBF lol. The three musketeers types more stuff that comes off the bottom of your shoe now days, I would just ignore and move on.

                    I'm really surprised so many people are going back n forth on this. Joshua finished his last fight a matter of days ago, has a track record of taking on challenging opposition and has openly said , along with Hearn, multiple times , that he wants Wilder in 2018. While Wilder was 'still' fighting bums Joshua took on the likes of Whyte, Martin, Klitschko - all of whom attached comments saying it was "too early" for him before the fight.

                    Given his track record I don't have any concerns that he will want this fight at all. Whether Wilder will or not is another matter, despite all his talking I've already seen him duck klitschko , avoid other challenges for multiple years and in the case of Whyte turn a huge payday down because he didn't want the risk. To his credit he did challenge Ortiz last fight, so at least has taken one proper fight in his career.

                    But I'll come back to my original point and whether it's even worthwhile a debate yet. Hearn/Joshua won't be looking to negiotiate so soon after the fight so may as well sit tight for a week or so before there will be any action

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      false.
                      Oh god. Just what we need. An internet fan with absolutely no insight, absolutely no possible way to know if what they are saying is true, yet making authoritative declarations anyway. This should be fun.


                      Wilders managers have to approve.
                      Wrong. Finkel and Deas don't have the legal right to block Wilder from taking a fight.


                      Lou dibella doesn’t but Haymon is Wilder’s boss.
                      Wrong. Haymon is an adviser. He works for Wilder. He isn't Wilder's boss. Please stop posting false information.


                      If Haymon doesn’t offer him a fight then Wilder sits on the sidelines. Just like how Shawn Porter and Austin Trout complained about not getting fights and they are only signed to Haymon.
                      Haymon has the exclusive right to approve Porter and Trout opponents because Porter and Trout signed Haymon's standard deal. Haymon's arrangement with Wilder is different.

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