AJ and Wilder - Career breakdown

[Sun_Tzu]

AJ is too stiff, slow and flat footed to stand a chance against Wilder. Head and upper body movement is non existant, he will never be able to deal with Wilder jab and left/right hook. He will suffer the same fate Ortiz did, who is comparable to AJ in many ways.

I dont agree with AJ being too stiff or flat footed, he isnt the fastest HW we have ever seen but he is average or above at the very least by my estimation. At any rate you have kind of reinforced my point. Wilder was losing to Ortiz and if it wasnt for the insane power he carries we would be talking about Ortiz vs Joshua. This fight is 50/50 only because Wilder can spark AJ at any moment. He isnt the better boxer by any stretch of the imagination.

[Raggamuffin]

AJ fought for his first world title in his 16th professional fight, aged just 26.

Wilder fought for his first world title in his 33rd professional fight, aged 30. Had entered the world Ring rankings for heavyweight in 2013, failed to capitalise on fights with either Klitschko.


AJ has had 6 championship fights, one against Wlad Klitschko an all time great, one against Carlos Takam and a unification. AJ is 28 years old.

Wilder has had 8 championship fights, no unifications and only one defence against someone ranked in The Ring top 10. Wilder is 32 years old.

Champions during AJ's reign have been Joseph Parker, Lucas Browne, Ruslan Chageav and Deontay Wilder, AJ has already fought and beaten Parker.

Champions during Wilder's reign have been Wladimir Klitschko, Lucas Browne, Ruslan Chageav, Joseph Parker and Tyson Fury. He has not faced any of them.


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Wilder's prestigious WBC title is the real title and the only title that matters. Leave it to Joshua fans there are 5 belts total, lmao. Neeeeeext!!! Lol

[Sun_Tzu]

Joshua doesn't need to. He will catch Wilder with a counter that rocks him and then he scores a knockdown. Later on he will get a stoppage from another knockdown.

You could be right, I cant call it.

[Larry the boss]

So this all has what to do with Hearn and Joshua avoiding Wilder??

[Raggamuffin]

I dont agree with AJ being too stiff or flat footed, he isnt the fastest HW we have ever seen but he is average or above at the very least by my estimation. At any rate you have kind of reinforced my point. Wilder was losing to Ortiz and if it wasnt for the insane power he carries we would be talking about Ortiz vs Joshua. This fight is 50/50 only because Wilder can spark AJ at any moment. He isnt the better boxer by any stretch of the imagination.

Joshua IS stiff as hell, and his skills are highly overrated by his fans. And Joshua is not the better boxer between the two in my book. While all styles are different, neither guys commits to the body and Wilder uses the jab more. I fail to see what Joshua does better than Wilder. And your "this fight is 50/50 only because" reason that you gave is a real, legit reason too.

[Sun_Tzu]

Joshua IS stiff as hell, and his skills are highly overrated by his fans. And Joshua is not the better boxer between the two in my book. While all styles are different, neither guys commits to the body and Wilder uses the jab more. I fail to see what Joshua does better than Wilder. And your "this fight is 50/50 only because" reason that you gave is a real, legit reason too.

People see things differently when they get caught up in the fray. I dont have a dog in this hunt. Wilder is a mess technically, he has been out boxed for long stretches by "inferior" opponents and has saved himself on numerous occasions by pulling the trigger on a hail mary. Joshua as far as I know has never been down on the cards when his fights ended except maybe the Klitchko fight but I think he was probably up a point or two at the time. He is better schooled and tighter technically than Wilder and thats how you out box a puncher.

I mean I dont think Im saying anything that people cant see with their own eyes. Wilder could land on AJ in the first round and Szpilka him, thats a real possibility. If that doesnt happen somewhere in the fight he isnt going to beat AJ. He has been doing just what I said at the very least since he won his belt.

[Raggamuffin]

People see things differently when they get caught up in the fray. I dont have a dog in this hunt. Wilder is a mess technically, he has been out boxed for long stretches by "inferior" opponents and has saved himself on numerous occasions by pulling the trigger on a hail mary. Joshua as far as I know has never been down on the cards when his fights ended except maybe the Klitchko fight but I think he was probably up a point or two at the time. He is better schooled and tighter technically than Wilder and thats how you out box a puncher.

I mean I dont think Im saying anything that people cant see with their own eyes. Wilder could land on AJ in the first round and Szpilka him, thats a real possibility. If that doesnt happen somewhere in the fight he isnt going to beat AJ. He has been doing just what I said at the very least since he won his belt.

You said that Wilder has been outboxed by inferior opponents for long periods of time. That's something we can differ on because I don't see what you've seen at all. But when you say that he saved himself by pulling the trigger on a "Hail Mary, your post becomes laughable-no offense. Lmao.

[Sun_Tzu]

You said that Wilder has been outboxed by inferior opponents for long periods of time. That's something we can differ on because I don't see what you've seen at all. But when you say that he saved himself by pulling the trigger on a "Hail Mary, your post becomes laughable-no offense. Lmao.

[Raggamuffin]

Matthew Saad Muhammad if he were alive (R.I.P) might've read your post and came to check you in your own home lol...

[KingHippo]

I dont agree with AJ being too stiff or flat footed, he isnt the fastest HW we have ever seen but he is average or above at the very least by my estimation. At any rate you have kind of reinforced my point. Wilder was losing to Ortiz and if it wasnt for the insane power he carries we would be talking about Ortiz vs Joshua. This fight is 50/50 only because Wilder can spark AJ at any moment. He isnt the better boxer by any stretch of the imagination.

AJ is completely stiff at the waistline. Can't bend whatsoever. And he has absolutely no head movement. Big problem against a fighter like Wilder.

And whichever way you people want to spin it, Ortiz did not win against Wilder and was knocked down in the fifth. The fact that he was being outboxed is irrelevant. Wilder isn't in the business of outboxing anybody. He's in the business of knocking people out.

There are plenty of areas where Wilder is better than Joshua. Speed, power, reflexes and stamina are just a few. Wilder's strenghts play to Joshua's weaknesses. After Joshua's poor display against Parker, Wilder is my favorite going in.